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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    Capello has stature and has won a shit load of trophies but look at him now. About as useful as Letters in a brothel.
    That depends whether the brothel needs some IT support.
    If it does then I'd be very useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    It's funny how you advocate someone that has recent success yet stick up for Wenger.
    Yeah. Wenger hasn't won a trophy for literally months.

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    I know there's a lot of focus on everything that's going wrong with us right now, but we shouldn't forget that we have a hell of a lot going for us as a club right now, and that we're going to be a massive draw for most of the world's top coaches when Wenger does eventually step aside.

    The key selling points, as I see them are:

    1. Spending power - perhaps we don't have as much as some clubs, but we still have considerably more than all but a handful...

    2. Stability - this could be the real ace up our sleeve? A lot of our rivals might have big money to spend, but not too many of them will combine that with the stability and long-term backing needed to really make good on a vision. We also have stability in the sense that our income streams are steady and self-sustaining, our infrastructure is already in place, and there's no nasty surprises ahead for us (like costly stadium builds!)...

    3. Core of young players to get started with - there may be some older players that the new guy will have to replace by the time they come in, but in general most of our players are still in their early-mid twenties, and may even be approaching their peak years, depending on when it happens...

    4. Room for improvement in almost all areas - in a weird way, the fact that we're currently under-performing in so many areas might make the job more attractive to a lot of candidates? Not just because it will give them an opportunity to really stamp their mark on the club, but also because there will be less pressure taking over from Wenger if his star has fallen slightly in the eyes of the fans? I always felt Moyes was on a hiding to nothing, taking over from Ferguson when he did, because there was nowhere he could really take that club? They were already sitting at the top of the league, so there was only one way to go there, and there wasn't even much of an opportunity there to be his own man either? Most of their fans immediately saw a younger Alex Ferguson, and therefore expected him to carry on being Alex Ferguson for them for another 20 years?! Now that's not to say that the job of replacing Wenger will be an easy one, because it won't - we could very easily go backwards ourselves with the wrong appointment. However, there is a lot more scope to take us forward too, and that will make any potential candidates feel like they have a very real chance of being a big success here...

    (Also, whilst it gets said a lot, I still think it's worth keeping in mind that a lot of what makes us such an attractive proposition for any potential new managers is in no small part down to Wenger's good work, so let's not be too scathing and disingenuous with our criticism of him in our eagerness to move on - he may well be holding us back a bit now, but he's done a hell of a lot for this club, and he'll leave us in a place where we're potentially a bit of good coaching / some fresh thinking away from being one of the European super powers!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    That depends whether the brothel needs some IT support.
    If it does then I'd be very useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Yeah. Wenger hasn't won a trophy for literally months.
    1 trophy in 10 years + spent 128 days at the top last season yet still managed to just about tumble across the line into 4th.

    Wenger the great!

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    The Community Shield totally counts as trophy! Everyone knows it.

    Not the Emirates Cup though - meaningless joke-competition, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    I know there's a lot of focus on everything that's going wrong with us right now, but we shouldn't forget that we have a hell of a lot going for us as a club right now, and that we're going to be a massive draw for most of the world's top coaches when Wenger does eventually step aside.

    The key selling points, as I see them are:

    1. Spending power - perhaps we don't have as much as some clubs, but we still have considerably more than all but a handful...

    2. Stability - this could be the real ace up our sleeve? A lot of our rivals might have big money to spend, but not too many of them will combine that with the stability and long-term backing needed to really make good on a vision. We also have stability in the sense that our income streams are steady and self-sustaining, our infrastructure is already in place, and there's no nasty surprises ahead for us (like costly stadium builds!)...

    3. Core of young players to get started with - there may be some older players that the new guy will have to replace by the time they come in, but in general most of our players are still in their early-mid twenties, and may even be approaching their peak years, depending on when it happens...

    4. Room for improvement in almost all areas - in a weird way, the fact that we're currently under-performing in so many areas might make the job more attractive to a lot of candidates? Not just because it will give them an opportunity to really stamp their mark on the club, but also because there will be less pressure taking over from Wenger if his star has fallen slightly in the eyes of the fans? I always felt Moyes was on a hiding to nothing, taking over from Ferguson when he did, because there was nowhere he could really take that club? They were already sitting at the top of the league, so there was only one way to go there, and there wasn't even much of an opportunity there to be his own man either? Most of their fans immediately saw a younger Alex Ferguson, and therefore expected him to carry on being Alex Ferguson for them for another 20 years?! Now that's not to say that the job of replacing Wenger will be an easy one, because it won't - we could very easily go backwards ourselves with the wrong appointment. However, there is a lot more scope to take us forward too, and that will make any potential candidates feel like they have a very real chance of being a big success here...

    (Also, whilst it gets said a lot, I still think it's worth keeping in mind that a lot of what makes us such an attractive proposition for any potential new managers is in no small part down to Wenger's good work, so let's not be too scathing and disingenuous with our criticism of him in our eagerness to move on - he may well be holding us back a bit now, but he's done a hell of a lot for this club, and he'll leave us in a place where we're potentially a bit of good coaching / some fresh thinking away from being one of the European super powers!)


    With the new sponsorship deals, we're in a much better position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    That depends whether the brothel needs some IT support.
    If it does then I'd be very useful.
    IT support.. it is not even a profession.
    somebody put something in my milk

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    I know there's a lot of focus on everything that's going wrong with us right now, but we shouldn't forget that we have a hell of a lot going for us as a club right now, and that we're going to be a massive draw for most of the world's top coaches when Wenger does eventually step aside.

    The key selling points, as I see them are:

    1. Spending power - perhaps we don't have as much as some clubs, but we still have considerably more than all but a handful...

    2. Stability - this could be the real ace up our sleeve? A lot of our rivals might have big money to spend, but not too many of them will combine that with the stability and long-term backing needed to really make good on a vision. We also have stability in the sense that our income streams are steady and self-sustaining, our infrastructure is already in place, and there's no nasty surprises ahead for us (like costly stadium builds!)...

    3. Core of young players to get started with - there may be some older players that the new guy will have to replace by the time they come in, but in general most of our players are still in their early-mid twenties, and may even be approaching their peak years, depending on when it happens...

    4. Room for improvement in almost all areas - in a weird way, the fact that we're currently under-performing in so many areas might make the job more attractive to a lot of candidates? Not just because it will give them an opportunity to really stamp their mark on the club, but also because there will be less pressure taking over from Wenger if his star has fallen slightly in the eyes of the fans? I always felt Moyes was on a hiding to nothing, taking over from Ferguson when he did, because there was nowhere he could really take that club? They were already sitting at the top of the league, so there was only one way to go there, and there wasn't even much of an opportunity there to be his own man either? Most of their fans immediately saw a younger Alex Ferguson, and therefore expected him to carry on being Alex Ferguson for them for another 20 years?! Now that's not to say that the job of replacing Wenger will be an easy one, because it won't - we could very easily go backwards ourselves with the wrong appointment. However, there is a lot more scope to take us forward too, and that will make any potential candidates feel like they have a very real chance of being a big success here...

    (Also, whilst it gets said a lot, I still think it's worth keeping in mind that a lot of what makes us such an attractive proposition for any potential new managers is in no small part down to Wenger's good work, so let's not be too scathing and disingenuous with our criticism of him in our eagerness to move on - he may well be holding us back a bit now, but he's done a hell of a lot for this club, and he'll leave us in a place where we're potentially a bit of good coaching / some fresh thinking away from being one of the European super powers!)


    Yep, it's pretty much a dream job when it comes up for grabs, we will have no shortage of candidates and I would expect them to be top notch ones aswell.

    I personally think if we do not see any progress this season, progress both in performance and in terms of strengthening the squad, then I feel Arsene should step aside.

    I have major issues with Arsene's management so maybe regardless of what we do his time should be up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post


    With the new sponsorship deals, we're in a much better position.
    I'm not even sure CL income is that much of a necessity for us any more? Obviously we'd rather have it than not have it (if for no other reason than we'll be competing with Europe's best), but the figures involved really are dwarfed by the new PL TV deal now. Chuck in the extra £70m a year that we're getting from Puma and Emirates and whoever else, and, from a purely survival POV, I think it's OK to declare us pretty safe and secure, even if we miss out the top 4...

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