Wenger Referendum: Yes Or No

[Injury Time]

My jury is still out, 3 years is plenty of time to recruit a replacement...a good one please

[Dein-machine]

Brilliant.

Despite this being thoroughly debunked 4 posts up, just take the one post on the page that you agree with and go with it, adding another brick to the castle that is Wenger out movement on GW.

Regardless of facts. Regardless of arguments. Wenger out because Wenger out.

Just perfect.

Debunked by whom though, the rose tinted glasses brigade. We are in a fight every year for 4th with teams who have 30,000+ seater stadiums & less financial clout than us, so I fail to see how anyone can suggest we couldn't be doing the same if we'd stayed at Highbury.

[Özim]

And no manager is getting sacked having just won a major trophy and finished with the most points for 6 years.

Not strictly true, however in most cases it is. He should however have lost his job a number of years ago.

[Niall_Quinn]

Staying at Highbury wasn't an option, not in the long term.



If you look at the match day column and compare that to our closest rivals the Emirates effect is obvious. There are no transfer funds available without the stadium move considering we have owners who don't invest their cash into the club directly. Look how far behind we are in terms of sponsorship. There's growth potential there (as we have seen), and again that will be on the back of the stadium move and future revenues. If we stayed at Highbury we could still be battling it out for 4th I suppose, maybe. But if we have genuine ambitions to get to the top then the stadium move is a key part of that.

Full article here:
http://swissramble.blogspot.ie/2014/...verything.html

[Dein-machine]

Staying at Highbury wasn't an option, not in the long term.



If you look at the match day column and compare that to our closest rivals the Emirates effect is obvious. There are no transfer funds available without the stadium move considering we have owners who don't invest their cash into the club directly. Look how far behind we are in terms of sponsorship. There's growth potential there (as we have seen), and again that will be on the back of the stadium move and future revenues. If we stayed at Highbury we could still be battling it out for 4th I suppose, maybe. But if we have genuine ambitions to get to the top then the stadium move is a key part of that.

Full article here:
http://swissramble.blogspot.ie/2014/...verything.html

Whats the use of having money if you're manager can't spend it correctly or wont.
Also, Athletico Madrid won the Spanish league & got to C.L. final last year - would we not be bringing in 103 mill of total revenue by now if we were still at Highbury.

[Niall_Quinn]

But that's a different argument. Fact is we would be out of the hunt and no manager could do anything about it had we not made the move. Now we have the opportunity to provide substantial funds to whatever manager needs them, be it Wenger or somebody else.

[Dein-machine]

And no manager is getting sacked having just won a major trophy and finished with the most points for 6 years.

- try telling that to Di Mateo who won a major trophy, unlike the FA Cup.

[WMUG]

Debunked by whom though, the rose tinted glasses brigade.

So?

We are in a fight every year for 4th with teams who have 30,000+ seater stadiums & less financial clout than us

Yes we are. And we win. Every year.

so I fail to see how anyone can suggest we couldn't be doing the same if we'd stayed at Highbury.

My guess is, and obviously we'll never know, that we'd have failed to get into the top 4 at least once in the last 9 years if we'd stayed.

[Dein-machine]

But that's a different argument. Fact is we would be out of the hunt and no manager could do anything about it had we not made the move. Now we have the opportunity to provide substantial funds to whatever manager needs them, be it Wenger or somebody else.

But then why can Athletico have success without big stadium revenue.
Answer is good tactical manager who is able to get the most from his players & by having quality players in every position - all this with a stadium that brings in 25% of what the Emirates does for us.

[Xhaka Can’t]

The assertions being made here are too simplistic. We have not been competing with the aforementioned clubs for fourth place. In the time period mentioned we have been the only one of those clubs to have been consistently in a position to be competitive for fourth while being successful in that respect every single time.

Everton have popped up very sporadically while never making the Group stage, Tottenham managed it once and coukdnt sustain it, Liverpool have returned from a few years in the wilderness. Not once have any of those Clubs achieved CL qualification at our expense.

I think that over large periods of the past 10 years it has actually been quite an achievement by the Club to qualify for the CL while successfully completing the largest capital expenditure project ever undertaken by any club in world football, and it's aftermath which coincided completely with the global financial crisis.

Anyone with a sensible outlook would have anticipated, no matter what contrary assurances had been made that this would impact on the clubs ability to compete given the level of change that occurred, which also included a seismic change in the economic landscape of the sport.

I think Wenger was the right guy to take us through all the pain. But it is clearly evident to me that as time has moved on and we now have the funds to compete, that he is not the right man for now. He hasn't the tactical nous to make the best of what he has nor is he using the resources we have as a club now to anything like it's full potential.

That said. Wenger has been the most important and influential person at the club in my lifetime, and his legacy should be one that is felt for many years after he is gone.