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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Hmmm I think he wanted to go last season, I think it's the board that are keen for him to stay and I wouldn't be surprised if they try and persuade him to stay after 2017

    Sorry to make you even more depressed
    I can't see why you'd say he wanted to go, he gave no indication of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I can't see why you'd say he wanted to go, he gave no indication of this.
    I'm saying that because he waited until his contract had almost expired before he signed a new one when in the past a contract extension had been signed 18 months before the expiry of his existing deal

    His body language on the touchline was that of a frustrated and unhappy figure, he's a deluded figure and since David Dein buggered off after bringing us the double kick in the balls of Kroenke and Usmanov felt like he had to take on the role of Atlas and do everything himself and the greedy, incompetent laissez faire board let him do it.

    I'm not saying I'm definitely right, but I think part of him feels in signing a new contract he's doing the board a favour.

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    And yes in case you're wondering I think last season would have been the perfect time for him to go and I wish he had

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    No one can say with a straight face that he is doing a good job anymore, I want him gone before this contract is up. He's tainting his legacy every additional year he remains at the helm.

    Gazidis needs to earn his money here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    No one can say with a straight face that he is doing a good job anymore, I want him gone before this contract is up. He's tainting his legacy every additional year he remains at the helm.

    Gazidis needs to earn his money here.
    Gazidis is interested in self preservation

    What incentive does he have to put the boot in on the manager, when the manager has the unquestioned backing of the chairman and the majority shareholder and the majority shareholders son (a trinity of for fuck sake)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    I'm saying that because he waited until his contract had almost expired before he signed a new one when in the past a contract extension had been signed 18 months before the expiry of his existing deal

    His body language on the touchline was that of a frustrated and unhappy figure, he's a deluded figure and since David Dein buggered off after bringing us the double kick in the balls of Kroenke and Usmanov felt like he had to take on the role of Atlas and do everything himself and the greedy, incompetent laissez faire board let him do it.

    I'm not saying I'm definitely right, but I think part of him feels in signing a new contract he's doing the board a favour.
    Well he gets paid 8 million pounds a year to experiment and use the team as some kind of "personal" project. It's not just about the nasty board. He's in a very privileged position IMO.

    I'll tell you one thing, Wenger wouldn't get away with this in any other leading European team or any of our top 4 rivals, he knows this too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Well he gets paid 8 million pounds a year to experiment and use the team as some kind of "personal" project. It's not just about the nasty board. He's in a very privileged position IMO.

    I'll tell you one thing, Wenger wouldn't get away with this in any other leading European team or any of our top 4 rivals, he knows this too.
    Apart from City, United or Chelsea...Wenger would have kept his job

    Despite our increased spending power we are in a lower financial tier to these clubs

    I've no doubt his bumper salary and the lack of accountability is a big pull for him, but i cant believe the fan abuse (justified abuse) and probably knowing deep down he can't hack it anymore wasn't responsible for him waiting till the last minute to sign a new contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Apart from City, United or Chelsea...Wenger would have kept his job

    Despite our increased spending power we are in a lower financial tier to these clubs

    I've no doubt his bumper salary and the lack of accountability is a big pull for him, but i cant believe the fan abuse (justified abuse) and probably knowing deep down he can't hack it anymore wasn't responsible for him waiting till the last minute to sign a new contract.
    They are our direct rivals.

    Look I can accept that we have been financially handicapped in the past, not anymore. I accept that City & Chelsea have bigger budgets than us, what I dont accept is our manager continually neglecting areas of the team/squad. He literally had no excuses this summer not to strenghten the necessary problem positions. At the very least he should be making the requisite tactical changes to address the deficiences. The collapse like last night was all too common, wenger builds team that collapse like this. I dont even think he should be given time, things are not going to change with him in charge, his approach is too flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    They are our direct rivals.

    Look I can accept that we have been financially handicapped in the past, not anymore. I accept that City & Chelsea have bigger budgets than us, what I dont accept is our manager continually neglecting areas of the team/squad. He literally had no excuses this summer not to strenghten the necessary problem positions. At the very least he should be making the requisite tactical changes to address the deficiences. The collapse like last night was all too common, wenger builds team that collapse like this. I dont even think he should be given time, things are not going to change with him in charge, his approach is too flawed.
    Apart from City and Chelsea I'd ask which teams in the summer addressed the deficiencies in their squad

    It's not saying Wenger hasn't blundered because he has, unfortunately I believe in order to get the balanced squad we have been crying out for you need to have a budget like Chelsea or Man City

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Apart from City and Chelsea I'd ask which teams in the summer addressed the deficiencies in their squad

    It's not saying Wenger hasn't blundered because he has, unfortunately I believe in order to get the balanced squad we have been crying out for you need to have a budget like Chelsea or Man City
    Seriously???. You need a billionaire before you can buy someone like Reid from W-ham or Caulker. Please if you accept that he's messed up stop finding excuses for him, especially ones that have little merit. Our 2 central defenders played at the WC, had little or no rest before this season and he still wouldn't buy a replacement for Vermaelen. You dont have to spend 30m in every position to have a great team. Teams on 1/5 of our budget have given Chelsea harder games than we ever could.

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