One Arsene Wenger...

[Letters]

His legacy has been tainted, I'd agree, but is it that hard to remember the great teams? You don't have any problem remembering the 'wonderful' 92/93 team who, frankly, were awful to watch. That season had a happy finish (which could easily have gone the other way) but 80% of it was horrible, we finished about 7 points above relegation, scored something like 40 goals in 42 games. It was boring boring Arsenal and their boring boringest.

The teams in the first half of Wenger's reign were far, far better and I feel priviledged to have had a season ticket during that period. Clough took Forest down in the end and I believe he's still regarded highly by Forest fans. All Wenger's done is taken us from first to fourth and he's vilified. He certainly deserves some stick and I think we all agree it's time for him to move on now but the legacy of the trophies, great football and steering us through the stadium move should not be forgotten or ignored.

You remember the good of 92/93 and conveniently forget how awful most of the season was, it would be weird to ignore all the good Wenger's done. 5 FA Cups, 3 titles, two of those doubles, an unbeaten season, amazing football, keeping our heads above water financially during a massively complicated stadium move. It's a shame he didn't go on a high last season but in the fulness of time I think his legacy will be appreciated. It bloody well should be.

[Özim]

His legacy has been tainted, I'd agree, but is it that hard to remember the great teams? You don't have any problem remembering the 'wonderful' 92/93 team who, frankly, were awful to watch. That season had a happy finish (which could easily have gone the other way) but 80% of it was horrible, we finished about 7 points above relegation, scored something like 40 goals in 42 games. It was boring boring Arsenal and their boring boringest.

The teams in the first half of Wenger's reign were far, far better and I feel priviledged to have had a season ticket during that period. Clough took Forest down in the end and I believe he's still regarded highly by Forest fans. All Wenger's done is taken us from first to fourth and he's vilified. He certainly deserves some stick and I think we all agree it's time for him to move on now but the legacy of the trophies, great football and steering us through the stadium move should not be forgotten or ignored.

You remember the good of 92/93 and conveniently forget how awful most of the season was, it would be weird to ignore all the good Wenger's done. 5 FA Cups, 3 titles, two of those doubles, an unbeaten season, amazing football, keeping our heads above water financially during a massively complicated stadium move. It's a shame he didn't go on a high last season but in the fulness of time I think his legacy will be appreciated. It bloody well should be.

I don't remember 92/93 that well, what made it memorable was that last gasp winning goal, the matches themselves are hard to remember, just as those from our successful years under Wenger are, largely because in the last 8 years he's forced us to watch slow-paced, boring and largely ineffective football, which year on year has led to the same result.

I want to remember the great times but we've had so many years of more mediocre times it's hard to really recall those with any great clarity, my feelings towards Wenger is that rather leaving as a true great, he'll leave as a good manager with glaring flaws, who rather than be proactive hid behind convenient excuses and limited his ambition to the board's financial requirements.

[mr_brighterside]

His legacy has been tainted, I'd agree, but is it that hard to remember the great teams? You don't have any problem remembering the 'wonderful' 92/93 team who, frankly, were awful to watch. That season had a happy finish (which could easily have gone the other way) but 80% of it was horrible, we finished about 7 points above relegation, scored something like 40 goals in 42 games. It was boring boring Arsenal and their boring boringest.

The teams in the first half of Wenger's reign were far, far better and I feel priviledged to have had a season ticket during that period. Clough took Forest down in the end and I believe he's still regarded highly by Forest fans. All Wenger's done is taken us from first to fourth and he's vilified. He certainly deserves some stick and I think we all agree it's time for him to move on now but the legacy of the trophies, great football and steering us through the stadium move should not be forgotten or ignored.

You remember the good of 92/93 and conveniently forget how awful most of the season was, it would be weird to ignore all the good Wenger's done. 5 FA Cups, 3 titles, two of those doubles, an unbeaten season, amazing football, keeping our heads above water financially during a massively complicated stadium move. It's a shame he didn't go on a high last season but in the fulness of time I think his legacy will be appreciated. It bloody well should be.

however I don't think his tenure post the trophies will be remembered positively. Moyes kept Everton in the top 6 or there abouts for a decade but he is hardly going to be considered a legend. also wenger's poor assessment of character since then with players like gallas, adebayor etc. don't do him any favours.

[fakeyank]

I still think Wenger will be remembered fondly in the next 10-20 years. Going through a whole season unbeaten is a feat which I dont think will be emulated anytime soon... though Chelsea always seem to scare me! Think about it.. 49 games in the PL and 0 defeats! I have a lot of dislike to his policies and footballing philosophies in the last few years but if you stand back and take a look at what he has done since 1996, I think he should be remembered fondly.

I do agree though that the longer he stays and puts out clueless teams out in the middle, the worse he is making it for himself. There wasnt a better time than May 2014 to have walked out! I dont know if it was the money or something else.. but whatever it was, it will be one of the biggest mistakes he has made (and he has made a lot in the last many seasons)

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I still think Wenger will be remembered fondly in the next 10-20 years. Going through a whole season unbeaten is a feat which I dont think will be emulated anytime soon... though Chelsea always seem to scare me! Think about it.. 49 games in the PL and 0 defeats! I have a lot of dislike to his policies and footballing philosophies in the last few years but if you stand back and take a look at what he has done since 1996, I think he should be remembered fondly.

I do agree though that the longer he stays and puts out clueless teams out in the middle, the worse he is making it for himself. There wasnt a better time than May 2014 to have walked out! I dont know if it was the money or something else.. but whatever it was, it will be one of the biggest mistakes he has made (and he has made a lot in the last many seasons)

Pretty much, i think what people forget as well is that he is a transformative manager....the reason we are frustrated with him is because in doing what he did between 1996 and 2005 he elevated the reputation of the club and the expectation of the fans.
Don't get me wrong Arsenal have always been a big club, but we weren't part of the European Elite....and the stability and reputation he had brought on the pitch has made us such a club in terms of financial might if not performance/results.
He has given us all he's got and is a spent force now, the board have retained him partly because they know that under him Arsenal have never finished outside the top four and partly because he in return has shown the club loyalty during a transistory phase when other clubs were interested in his services.
He has frustrated the hell out of me, and he doesn't deserve the money he is on....but what he has achieved with us has rightly earnt him sporting immortality

[Niall_Quinn]

Let's say, hypodermically, you did start supporting the chavs. What would you do on the first day? Maybe look at pictures of Maureen and go, yay! Or stick up a poster of Ramires? Or start singing chavvy songs? That'd be the first day. WTF would you do on the second day? And what about match days? Wouldn't it be a bit weird wanting the despicable cunts you support to lose? Wouldn't you get beaten up every time you went to a match? I don't think it would be much fun to support the chavs.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

What's a transistory phase?

[Injury Time]

What's a transistory phase?

Something to do with POWER! and resistors little bit 2%?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

What's a transistory phase?

An example would be the kind of thing you experience once a month

It doesn't last

Although if it does you need to get a referral to colposcopy