Match Reaction vs Borussia Dortmund (home).

[Letters]

Oh look it's Letters aka Mr 'I want Wenger out' apparently but I'll stick up for him and not allow any criticism whatsoever.

Yes. Again. You're just lying, or a bit stupid. I'm not sure which.
We clearly need to move on from Wenger but that doesn't mean EVERYTHING he does is wrong or EVERYTHING he says should be criticized.
Some people's obsession with Wenger and jumping on everything he says and criticizing it (even when they agree with it) is bizarre, frankly.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

This is not just about this season, it's about a succession of seasons where we have finished group runners up.

Three times out of the previous four seasons we have finished second in the group and funnily enough we have been drawn against Barcelona and Bayern Mumich

The reason Dortmund smashed Anderlecht and Galatasaray is because they are poor sides, the reason they smashed us is because we played atrociously

Considering we are laughably one of the top seeds, our European form in no way befits this


So for him to talk about hoping our luck improves in the draw is infuriating, because really it should be up to him to make sure we avoid being dependent on the whims of fortune

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I don't attack him on everything, I thought the whole Jacqui Oatley thing was a massive media overreaction but he says he accepts criticism, but its the same way I accept chocolates at Xmas I don't eat chocolate so invariably I say thank you and pass them onto someone else.

[Letters]

This is not just about this season, it's about a succession of seasons where we have finished group runners up.

Yes, but in other seasons we have been culpable in that - we've been in a position to win the group and rested players, cocked up the final games and slipped to 2nd place.
This season with Dortmund winning every game in the CL till Wednesday (whatever their domestic form, they've been good in the CL so far) we were never really in a position to win it this year.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Why were we not in a position to win the group?

Was it not because of the shoddy display in Germany

Unless you're telling me of course that there is no possible way we could have got a result there

Dortmund were only as good as we made them look

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Some people's obsession with Wenger and jumping on everything he says and criticizing it (even when they agree with it) is bizarre, frankly.

Yes and some people's obsession with Wenger and defending everything he says/does is bizarre, frankly.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Why were we not in a position to win the group?

Was it not because of the shoddy display in Germany

Unless you're telling me of course that there is no possible way we could have got a result there

Dortmund were only as good as we made them look

Because wenger the genius decided to isolate Bellerin and let him get gang-raped.

[Letters]

Yes and some people's obsession with Wenger and defending everything he says/does is bizarre, frankly.

It would be if anyone did that.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

And also there is no reason we couldn't have duffed up the other teams like Dortmund did, we beat Galatasaray at home handily (by the same scoreline Dortmund beat them) and against Anderlecht we played atrociously in Belgium and blew a three goal lead at home, so even with the game in Germany we had every chance of finishing top of the group.

Three bad performances in five group stage matches gifted top spot to them

[Letters]

Why were we not in a position to win the group?

Was it not because of the shoddy display in Germany

Unless you're telling me of course that there is no possible way we could have got a result there

Dortmund were only as good as we made them look

I don't think losing away at Dortmund is a disgrace although we did make them look much better than they are.
Anyway, if we'd won the group it would only mean getting a round further before being beaten by one of the big guns