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    Swearing at and hectoring someone is the breakdown of discourse

    I don't get why his salary is relevant here....I've got an old guy in my office who doesn't do his job properly and that can be frustrating, am I by that token within my rights to start swearing at him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Swearing at and hectoring someone is the breakdown of discourse

    I don't get why his salary is relevant here....I've got an old guy in my office who doesn't do his job properly and that can be frustrating, am I by that token within my rights to start swearing at him?
    That would get you sacked. However if you were asked to a meeting to troubleshoot your company problems would you say, You didnt see it . Everything is honky Dory here.. managers get abused, they know it goes with the territory. You seem to believe its up to him, when and how he leaves. He got to hear what he needed to hear. We are not his personal chemistry set to tinker with at leisure while he seeks to turn charcoal to diamonds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Swearing at and hectoring someone is the breakdown of discourse

    I don't get why his salary is relevant here....I've got an old guy in my office who doesn't do his job properly and that can be frustrating, am I by that token within my rights to start swearing at him?
    Yes, you can swear at him IF after repeated chances to fix his actions, he still doesnt do his job properly. And to top the frustration off, he also has the blessing of the CEO to do whatever he likes.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Swearing at and hectoring someone is the breakdown of discourse

    I don't get why his salary is relevant here....I've got an old guy in my office who doesn't do his job properly and that can be frustrating, am I by that token within my rights to start swearing at him?
    You are the same person not so long ago who was berating someone on here that everything miserable in his life he blames on Wenger
    Some crap along the lines of......If he lost his toothbrush ...somehow its Wengers fault
    You give it large here about how Wenger should be respected. Yet have no tolerance for other posters opinions. Now you want Wenger to go. politely, of course. Less than 2 months ago you were a rabid Wenger Belieber

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    That would get you sacked. However if you were asked to a meeting to troubleshoot your company problems would you say, You didnt see it . Everything is honky Dory here.. managers get abused, they know it goes with the territory. You seem to believe its up to him, when and how he leaves. He got to hear what he needed to hear. We are not his personal chemistry set to tinker with at leisure while he seeks to turn charcoal to diamonds.
    Again it's not the sentiment it's the personal invective I disapprove of

    Actually even if they'd just chanted "Wenger out" ok not how I'd go about things but still

    But telling him to fuck off and calling him a cunt? Sorry not acceptable

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    I find it difficult, this abuse at the station. Personally, I think the time for him to move on has come, for various reasons. But, to abuse an old man on a train platform isnt really on. Its not like he wants to destroy the club he has transformed from middle of the road. Its a difficult situation all around. I cant see him leaving on his own accord, equally cant see the board sacking him. who know where we go from here, but all this is tearing the club apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    You are the same person not so long ago who was berating someone on here that everything miserable in his life he blames on Wenger
    Some crap along the lines of......If he lost his toothbrush ...somehow its Wengers fault
    You give it large here about how Wenger should be respected. Yet have no tolerance for other posters opinions. Now you want Wenger to go. politely, of course. Less than 2 months ago you were a rabid Wenger Belieber
    Really?

    Again I love being told what my opinions are

    But honestly don't take my word for it, feel free to go ahead and look up anything that equates to me being a Wenger cheerleader. I think the most positive thing I've said about him is that although I have no faith he can take the club forward he will in no doubt leave it in a better position than it was when he became manager

    As for me accusing someone of blaming everything on Wenger, I don't recall saying such a thing (of course that doesn't mean I didnt say it, as I do enjoy winding up some of the posters on here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander View Post
    I find it difficult, this abuse at the station. Personally, I think the time for him to move on has come, for various reasons. But, to abuse an old man on a train platform isnt really on. Its not like he wants to destroy the club he has transformed from middle of the road. Its a difficult situation all around. I cant see him leaving on his own accord, equally cant see the board sacking him. who know where we go from here, but all this is tearing the club apart.
    I totally agree with you

    He has to go, but hounding people out is the rule of mob mentality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    I don't like it, lying in wait for a manager and the team at the station just so you can shout abuse at him is ignorant mob mentality, if spurs or Chelsea fans behaved in such a way we would be quick enough to say something.

    I think the boos on their own arent the problem it's shouting "fuck off" at him which is disgusting.

    I don't like how he's managing the club, I think he's become too insulated and arrogant but nothing he's done deserves personal abuse. He's the same age as my dad and I wouldn't take kindly to people doing that to him.
    Leave aside the football, a bunch of yobs baying at an OAP? It's not particularly big or clever, is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Leave aside the football, a bunch of yobs baying at an OAP? It's not particularly big or clever, is it?
    Precisely

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