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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    What does his salary have to do with anything though? It doesn't matter if he's earning 8 million or £100 a year, people deserve to be treated with a minimum amount of respect no matter who they are. Nor does spending more money, entitle you to act like a colossal dickhead. Imagine if some thug tried to use that logic stream as a defence in a court case......... "I'm sorry I assaulted that guy but because he's earning 8 million a year and I spent £200 to see him, it should be fine"

    I'm with H_C_Z here. I would have understood (though been slightly uncomfortable) with general booing of him & the team at the station but that level of personal abuse and vitriol is bang out of order. He's not child murderer FFS, just a guy who's not performing at his job. I'm sure Wenger's big and experienced to not let it affect him but it makes some of the fans looks like completely morons, not to mention gives the media another excuse to bash our club and we've already given them plenty of reasons to do so this season with our shit performances.

    Some people take football way too seriously at times.
    I dont know why you and HCZ are focusing on the salary part so much. I never said that his 8 million quid pay entitles him to abuse, what I said was that 8 million quid check should soothe his thick skin. Heck, you give me that money to me and call me a cunt all day long... I'll be just fine!
    And I dont get why he cant be booed or called a cunt... we call the refs, opposition players, our own players, teachers, bosses etc cunts everyday. Just because Wenger did something back in the middle ages doesnt mean he cannot even be booed. He is no God (not that there is a God) and to me, he is just another failed manager who needs to fuck off. His past glories has bought him a LOT of time.. and he is way past his welcome now, so if booing and calling him a cunt makes him rethink his ability as a manager, then I am all for it.

    And let's not pretend that video was some sort of war crime. It was a video of an unsuccessful manager getting booed while boarding a train. That is normal in football. If you are looking more into it, then its your fault!
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    I dont know why you and HCZ are focusing on the salary part so much. I never said that his 8 million quid pay entitles him to abuse, what I said was that 8 million quid check should soothe his thick skin. Heck, you give me that money to me and call me a cunt all day long... I'll be just fine!
    And I dont get why he cant be booed or called a cunt... we call the refs, opposition players, our own players, teachers, bosses etc cunts everyday. Just because Wenger did something back in the middle ages doesnt mean he cannot even be booed. He is no God (not that there is a God) and to me, he is just another failed manager who needs tko fuck off. His past glories has bought him a LOT of time.. and he is way past his welcome now, so if booing and calling him a cunt makes him rethink his ability as a manager, then I am all for it.

    And let's not pretend that video was some sort of war crime. It was a video of an unsuccessful manager getting booed while boarding a train. That is normal in football. If you are looking more into it, then its your fault!
    I don't understand what your failing to come to terms with here, I don't want to question your upbringing because I don't know you but what in the world is acceptable about screaming swear words at someone in public?. It's the behaviour of the oath, It's also the behaviour of the coward because had it been a different or younger manager they'd screamed at that individual might not have been so quick to turn the other cheek....it's easy to shout and swear at someone who is not going to respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    I don't understand what your failing to come to terms with here, I don't want to question your upbringing because I don't know you but what in the world is acceptable about screaming swear words at someone in public?. It's the behaviour of the oath, It's also the behaviour of the coward because had it been a different or younger manager they'd screamed at that individual might not have been so quick to turn the other cheek....it's easy to shout and swear at someone who is not going to respond.
    Oh dear, you clearly dont understand, do you? This is a football team manager and if you are going to call him names, that is not the worst thing in the world! This is the same man who is as clueless as a retarded baboon and you want him to treated with respect, when he talks shit week in and week out?
    Again, remember you are talking about a sport which runs massive emotions in a fan. If you are going to pretend that this is the same as a boardroom meeting at the Ritz, then we might as well stop this conversation.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    And I dont get why he cant be booed or called a cunt... we call the refs, opposition players, our own players, teachers, bosses etc cunts everyday.
    No, not our own players. That's kinda what being a supporter means, there is a clue in the name.
    It was a video of an unsuccessful manager getting booed while boarding a train. That is normal in football.
    Well, the most successful manager in our history actually, the manager of the current FA Cup winners. But anyway...

    It is common in football, but usually it's the opposition fans doing it and it's us thinking they're classless, cowardly c****.

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    My own players do cause me to swear but it's not directly at them it's a exhasperated "for fuck sake"

    I question players abilities saying "they are shit" or "playing like a cunt" on message boards

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    Football fans swearing! What's the world coming to? You guys need to get a grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Football fans swearing! What's the world coming to? You guys need to get a grip.
    But it's outside the sport, if fans in a stadium start shouting and swearing at the manager that's one thing, it's not my type of thing but outside a football ground it is just a thug screaming at a sixty five year old man.

    Because if accosting the manager at a railway station is acceptable than presumably someone coming up to him and screaming at him in a restaurant is acceptable as well?

    Really I'm surprised I need to explain this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    But it's outside the sport, if fans in a stadium start shouting and swearing at the manager that's one thing, it's not my type of thing but outside a football ground it is just a thug screaming at a sixty five year old man.

    Because if accosting the manager at a railway station is acceptable than presumably someone coming up to him and screaming at him in a restaurant is acceptable as well?

    Really I'm surprised I need to explain this.
    Don't people do the same at footballers who have moved clubs without anyone batting an eyelid though. I don't agree with it but I do think that if you do it at players then it's very much pot calling the kettle black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    But it's outside the sport, if fans in a stadium start shouting and swearing at the manager that's one thing, it's not my type of thing but outside a football ground it is just a thug screaming at a sixty five year old man.

    Because if accosting the manager at a railway station is acceptable than presumably someone coming up to him and screaming at him in a restaurant is acceptable as well?

    Really I'm surprised I need to explain this.
    You don’t need to explain anything. What gets me is snobbish attitude as if our fans are somehow better than others and ‘above’ this sort of behaviour. Arsenal ‘class’ they say. It doesn’t exist. There are some idiots among us and we’re a club supported by many. It’s football. We’ve seen fans intimidate Rooney and Gerrard into staying with their clubs. Fans abusing refs, burning shirts of former players, singing songs about rape, paedophiles, racist songs, anti-sematic, homophobic, you name it. It can be an ugly sport at times and I don’t agree with what happened to Wenger but it’s not the worst thing I’ve seen. It’s just a few boos and jeers I’m sure he won’t lose sleep over.

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