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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    It's just booing. We have bigger problems in the world.
    Yeah, it wasn't just booing. Very, very true. We have bigger things to deal with. Which merely serves to emphasise how idiotic the screamers are. But accepting some (many) people are more concerned with how many times a ball goes in a net than the absolute fucking carnage going on all around them, so a few fucks who deserve to be not just booed but killed can make a few quid, even if you're going to get that invested in comparative trivia at least take a breath and remember all the time you cheered and why you cheered. A bit of balance. I don't think anyone would have mentioned this incident if it was just booing.

    And the general "holier than thou" criticism that some are starting to weave into their apologies, has anyone tried to claim our fans are purer than the other team's fans? To quote a great man, "I didn't see it!". It's not about holier than thou, it's about the fact Wenger has actually stuck around and done a shit load for this club. He deserves respect for that and it's quite possible to respectfully disagree with everything he's doing these days. Hell, even the media hacks don't rush into the room and call him a cunt. They know how to make the water hot for him without resorting to abuse and these guys aren't exactly the sharpest tacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Yeah, it wasn't just booing. Very, very true. We have bigger things to deal with. Which merely serves to emphasise how idiotic the screamers are. But accepting some (many) people are more concerned with how many times a ball goes in a net than the absolute fucking carnage going on all around them, so a few fucks who deserve to be not just booed but killed can make a few quid, even if you're going to get that invested in comparative trivia at least take a breath and remember all the time you cheered and why you cheered. A bit of balance. I don't think anyone would have mentioned this incident if it was just booing.

    And the general "holier than thou" criticism that some are starting to weave into their apologies, has anyone tried to claim our fans are purer than the other team's fans? To quote a great man, "I didn't see it!". It's not about holier than thou, it's about the fact Wenger has actually stuck around and done a shit load for this club. He deserves respect for that and it's quite possible to respectfully disagree with everything he's doing these days. Hell, even the media hacks don't rush into the room and call him a cunt. They know how to make the water hot for him without resorting to abuse and these guys aren't exactly the sharpest tacks.
    Hey, not so long ago you were lecturing me about ‘football tribalism’ and not understanding it when I disagreed with posters that described Sagna as a ‘cunt’. Now look. That same attitude you were aping a few months back has arrived at Wenger’s door step. What do you expect when its common to encourage this sort of thing in football? That’s why it’s a bit late to look for the moral high ground.

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    Wenger got a bit of abuse from some angry unruly fans, big deal, it comes with the territory everyone knows what football is like (doesn't make it right). He gets 8 million or so a year, for that I'd happily deal with a few angry words and insults from a few bystanders, he can go home to his mansion or go off on his personal yacht afterwards if he wants to.

    Like I said if you shout sh*t like this at players don't turn round and have a fit when it happens to a manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Hey, not so long ago you were lecturing me about ‘football tribalism’ and not understanding it when I disagreed with posters that described Sagna as a ‘cunt’. Now look. That same attitude you were aping a few months back has arrived at Wenger’s door step. What do you expect when its common to encourage this sort of thing in football? That’s why it’s a bit late to look for the moral high ground.
    People have suddenly applied different rules because it's Arsene Wenger, loads of managers in the past have had to deal with much worse and noone has said a peep, he doesn't help matters by patronising all an sundry and disregarding all other opinions as foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    People have suddenly applied different rules because it's Arsene Wenger, loads of managers in the past have had to deal with much worse and noone has said a peep, he doesn't help matters by patronising all an sundry and disregarding all other opinions as foolish.
    No, No No!. You dont understand these people. Its not because hes old (he really isnt). Its not because hes a rubbish manager (He is). Its because its not nice and makes all of us look bad. Note especially the resort to calling them names like morons. People abusing people for abusing other people.

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    It's actually nothing to do with who it was either.
    I would explain but...meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    No, No No!. You dont understand these people. Its not because hes old (he really isnt). Its not because hes a rubbish manager (He is). Its because its not nice and makes all of us look bad. Note especially the resort to calling them names like morons. People abusing people for abusing other people.
    They're called morons because that's the term from the dictionary that is most descriptive and befitting. If you act like a moron then you are likely a moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    They're called morons because that's the term from the dictionary that is most descriptive and befitting. If you act like a moron then you are likely a moron.
    I think you'll find they are acting more like typical fans. BTW your thesaurus has holes in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    I think you'll find they are acting more like typical fans. BTW your thesaurus has holes in it
    I don't know how many went up to Stoke, a few thousand?
    A handful went out of their way to shout abuse at our manager in public after the game.
    Doesn't sound that typical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    People have suddenly applied different rules because it's Arsene Wenger, loads of managers in the past have had to deal with much worse and noone has said a peep, he doesn't help matters by patronising all an sundry and disregarding all other opinions as foolish.
    That's exactly right. Different rules because it's Wenger. What bit about that don't you get? The Utd fans quite rightly called out the minority shitheaps who were slagging Fergie too. Different rules because it was Fergie and anyone who can't figure out why has been asleep for decades.
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