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    This has been agreed.
    http://www.theguardian.com/football/...eedings-change.

    Our 4th place bubble is about to be burst.

    On second reading it doesnt say exactly what happens to the 2nd-4th placed teams, but based on extrapolation of logic. There is little reason why the 4th place team should be ranked higher than the 2nd place team
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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    This has been agreed.
    http://www.theguardian.com/football/...eedings-change.

    Our 4th place bubble is about to be burst.

    On second reading it doesnt say exactly what happens to the 2nd-4th placed teams, but based on extrapolation of logic. There is little reason why the 4th place team should be ranked higher than the 2nd place team


    Spending a billion quid of dirty oil money is 'sporting merit' now, is it?

    Fair enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters To Santa View Post
    True. We haven't won a trophy for months.
    That line will only last so long you know.....

    But we both know I was referring to one of the bigger trophies....unless you think we made a concerted charge on the title or CL in our preparations last summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    That line will only last so long you know.....
    It will, but as frustrating as things have been this season, some people are acting like last year didn't happen.

    Fact is we're nowhere near good enough to win the CL.
    We're not going to fail to win it because we're not interested in winning the bigger trophies, we're just not good enough too.

    The CL has got enough sides in who are enough better than us to make it very unlikely we can win it. The top 2 in the league this year will almost certainly be the two clubs with billionaire owners. Utd are now in the mix having spent silly money to buy their way out of trouble.

    Meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters To Santa View Post
    It will, but as frustrating as things have been this season, some people are acting like last year didn't happen.

    Fact is we're nowhere near good enough to win the CL.
    We're not going to fail to win it because we're not interested in winning the bigger trophies, we're just not good enough too.

    The CL has got enough sides in who are enough better than us to make it very unlikely we can win it. The top 2 in the league this year will almost certainly be the two clubs with billionaire owners. Utd are now in the mix having spent silly money to buy their way out of trouble.

    Meh.
    I think you've misunderstood or overlooked what I mean by not interested. I mean, Wenger didn't assemble a squad good enough to challenge any of these major honours last summer. That is first and fore mostly why we're nowhere near good enough to win it presently.....and that's without descending into a diatribe of the usual hang ups people perceive the manager as having....

    Last year was what it was and some would have it banished from recollection all together....we know that. But the underlying feeling (for me even if nobody else) was that unless we significantly strengthened in January we would not go on to win the league.....

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    You all know we won't significantly strengthen in January. You know how it goes. We get linked with Hummels and Cavani and Pogba, it goes on and on, eventually we find out we offered £2 for all three, so then we get linked with Ron Vlaar and say hey, fuck it, better than nothing. And then Remi Garde gets brought in on a free because he can play defender and midfield. And we all say, fuuuuck, I wish we hadn't signed anybody at all!
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    We may buy players but not in terms of the Champions League; we can only register one new player and that will be Giroud probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    This has been agreed.
    http://www.theguardian.com/football/...eedings-change.

    Our 4th place bubble is about to be burst.

    On second reading it doesnt say exactly what happens to the 2nd-4th placed teams, but based on extrapolation of logic. There is little reason why the 4th place team should be ranked higher than the 2nd place team
    There's every reason. And the current method is the the only thing standing between clubs literally paying their way into pot #1. Who's pot 1 and 2 next season then? And the next, and the next and right up until some even more massive crook comes in and buys an Everton or Aston Villa into pot #1. The gypos have been gash in the CL. They aren't being rewarded for their performances, they are being rewarded for their bank balance. Same will go for other comedy outfits such as Barca, Marketing and the ludicrous PSG. Plus it's plain dumb to rank the clubs based on where they finish in their league - who's going to stop Bayern? They are an even bigger joke than the gypos, simply buying up their closest opponents players every season. What if the gypos continue being so gash? Pot 1 or 2 every year simply because they splash cash? Chavs in pot #1 because they have a lucrative extortion racket going in Eastern Asia?

    Current way is not ideal but it's infinitely better than just ranking based on cash. Especially when it's a thoroughly corrupt association running the tournament. What's the chances gypo cash was used to bring in these new favourable rules for them? 90% 95% 99%, 101%?
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