Wenger Referendum: Yes Or No

[Letters]

People were probably away over Christmas. But in general fewer post when we win.

I meant in this thread in particular. I understand there are long standing reasons why people think we should move on from Wenger but people only post in here after a poor result which makes it look knee jerk and petulant.

[fakeyank]

People don't post when we win because most of us know that it is just pampering over the cracks. And I can't think many wins we had in which we played blinding football.

[Letters]

Those are reasons why people should still post in this thread after a win, but they don't.

There's clearly a debate to be had about Wenger, and most of us think we need to be preparing for a post-Wenger Arsenal. In the UK there's a debate to be had about immigration - but it's difficult to have that debate without sounding racist what with UKIP and Farage around. In the same way it's difficult to have a sensible debate about Wenger with people who only post after a defeat and who, at times, use such extreme language about him.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Because most fans are reasonable, if we win than we are mollified because above all else we are Arsenal fans and want our club to win, i don't think it changes the mind of anyone that this guy can take us forward. But only a couple of idiots on here actually would prefer us to lose to spite the manager.
But this post is generally fuelled by impassioned negativity and its very easy to see the same old failings when we lose, and whilst we are capable of high minded emotionally unencumbered debate message boards are usually just a way for people to get things off their chest.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Those are reasons why people should still post in this thread after a win, but they don't.

There's clearly a debate to be had about Wenger, and most of us think we need to be preparing for a post-Wenger Arsenal. In the UK there's a debate to be had about immigration - but it's difficult to have that debate without sounding racist what with UKIP and Farage around. In the same way it's difficult to have a sensible debate about Wenger with people who only post after a defeat and who, at times, use such extreme language about him.

I think there are dozens of other things that need debating before immigration

[Letters]

I think there are dozens of other things that need debating before immigration

Maybe, but the point about the difficulty of having that debate with Farage around stands.

[Letters]

You lot give it the big one over social media and forums

Only just seen this.

There goes another ironymeter.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Maybe, but the point about the difficulty of having that debate with Farage around stands.

Well yes but given the genuine maladies affecting the country it's not really even a debate worth having until the real problems are fixed.

[Niall_Quinn]

I meant in this thread in particular. I understand there are long standing reasons why people think we should move on from Wenger but people only post in here after a poor result which makes it look knee jerk and petulant.

Oh right. Hasn't everything that needs to be said been said about a thousand times? This thread, like many others, has become a sounding board for frustration. Even if we went on a run of 20 games unbeaten, does any sane Arsenal fan think we'd win the crucial 21st crunch match that made an actual difference? We'd definitely lose that. So the 20 unbeaten games are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, when is all this going to collapse? Wins don't mean anything at this club because we never build on them. However, we often deliver new lows which is lucky because it at least gives us something to talk about. Our winning runs are like a cart accelerating out of control down a boulder strewn hillside. It's always just a matter of time before the whole thing smashes to tiny pieces. You don't really enjoy a ride like that do you? There's no steering wheel, no sense of purpose. And you can even see the rock that's going to kill you way before you hit. And camera crews and journos are camped out waiting because they know what's going to happen too. They already have the copy written, they just need the photos.

[selassie]

Oh right. Hasn't everything that needs to be said been said about a thousand times? This thread, like many others, has become a sounding board for frustration. Even if we went on a run of 20 games unbeaten, does any sane Arsenal fan think we'd win the crucial 21st crunch match that made an actual difference? We'd definitely lose that. So the 20 unbeaten games are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, when is all this going to collapse? Wins don't mean anything at this club because we never build on them. However, we often deliver new lows which is lucky because it at least gives us something to talk about. Our winning runs are like a cart accelerating out of control down a boulder strewn hillside. It's always just a matter of time before the whole thing smashes to tiny pieces. You don't really enjoy a ride like that do you? There's no steering wheel, no sense of purpose. And you can even see the rock that's going to kill you way before you hit. And camera crews and journos are camped out waiting because they know what's going to happen too. They already have the copy written, they just need the photos.