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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    I can look at it one of two ways 1) that the board are cowardly contemptimble scum and don't have the guts to take direct responsibility, they aren't saying it's wenger's decision out of respect for him they are saying it because they'd rather him walk than have to take the responsibility themselves

    2) Wenger and the board playing for time, hoping that fan anger will blow over. Forlorn hope....
    1) They are definitely cowards and are definitely doing as you described.

    2) Most likely, but I think Wenger is at the point of no return in terms of Fans support...he's buried himself so deep in it that that he has no real way of getting out. I honestly don't think anything could persuade fans to want him to stay, the anger will be there until the end of the season now....it's built up over quite a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    1) They are definitely cowards and are definitely doing as you described.

    2) Most likely, but I think Wenger is at the point of no return in terms of Fans support...he's buried himself so deep in it that that he has no real way of getting out. I honestly don't think anything could persuade fans to want him to stay, the anger will be there until the end of the season now....it's built up over quite a long time.
    I agree, but it's the only possible reason why he hasn't announced his departure already

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    Can you imagine the dismay him signing a new deal would cause? He looks like he's had enough and it's not worth the hassle anymore to him.

    They can weather the storm as much as they like but the opinion of the fanbase isn't going to change. Even if we win the Cup. He's got to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Can you imagine the dismay him signing a new deal would cause? He looks like he's had enough and it's not worth the hassle anymore to him.

    They can weather the storm as much as they like but the opinion of the fanbase isn't going to change. Even if we win the Cup. He's got to go.
    Wenger signing a new deal suits the board, but not the fans or even Wenger himself. A decision needs to be made on this right now.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    That's my biggest concern, that no succession plan has been made. Simply because for the board who have no say on football matters, keeping Wenger makes their lives a hell of a lot easier. They've sat on their arses for 10 years since Dein left and Wenger took on more responsibility, now they might actually have to do something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    That's my biggest concern, that no succession plan has been made. Simply because for the board who have no say on football matters, keeping Wenger makes their lives a hell of a lot easier. They've sat on their arses for 10 years since Dein left and Wenger took on more responsibility, now they might actually have to do something.
    Wenger for his faults (and they are numerous) have been a useful punching bag for the board, if they cared about the footballing side. They would have long ago leant on him to tell him to change his coaching staff and defer some of his responsibilities, and they would have long ago leant on him to decide on his future so they had a succession plan in place.

    Kroenke is probably one of the most hated men in American Sports, and David Dein really has to take responsibility for bringing him and Usmanov anywhere near our club

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    I think the board want him to stay because replacing him is a massive job. This is exactly why the decision cannot be left until the end of the season. We need to start planning for his departure now.

    Wenger is the last of the old school Managers, involved in many areas of the club a modern Head Coach wouldn't be. It's impossible to replace him with one man.

    I hope they have already been working on this behind he scenes.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    I think the board want him to stay because replacing him is a massive job. This is exactly why the decision cannot be left until the end of the season. We need to start planning for his departure now.

    Wenger is the last of the old school Managers, involved in many areas of the club a modern Head Coach wouldn't be. It's impossible to replace him with one man.

    I hope they have already been working on this behind he scenes.
    It’s a massive job but I can’t say for sure who’s stopping us from upgrading our structure. Who made the decision to block Thierry Henry and has hardly offered jobs to former players? The staff Wenger has around him has been the same for years and he seems reluctant to upgrade.

    He’s spoken out against having a Director of Football in the past. Not sure what his stance is now. We’ve slowly seen a change to our Academy and medical staff but the first team has remained the same for donkeys.

    Considering the club were open to listening to Wenger’s ideas on how a club should be run, it would be stupid for them not to be open to listening to the ideas of a new manager. The way to pitch this club to a new manager is that this is a chance to build a legacy.

    Now that Wenger’s approval ratings have hit an all time low with the fans, the Board must sense that this is the time to let him go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    It’s a massive job but I can’t say for sure who’s stopping us from upgrading our structure. Who made the decision to block Thierry Henry and has hardly offered jobs to former players? The staff Wenger has around him has been the same for years and he seems reluctant to upgrade.

    He’s spoken out against having a Director of Football in the past. Not sure what his stance is now. We’ve slowly seen a change to our Academy and medical staff but the first team has remained the same for donkeys.

    Considering the club were open to listening to Wenger’s ideas on how a club should be run, it would be stupid for them not to be open to listening to the ideas of a new manager. The way to pitch this club to a new manager is that this is a chance to build a legacy.

    Now that Wenger’s approval ratings have hit an all time low with the fans, the Board must sense that this is the time to let him go.
    If after a decade of this abject shite Wenger still hasn't walked then it indicates the owners don't give a shit about the football side of the club. They care about one thing, the cash. The easy solution here is to create a new role for Wenger where he effectively remains in charge and then bring some yes man in to manage the team in a much reduced role and take all the heat off Wenger. This is what I think will happen.

    Whatever happens, I'm positive it will be done with the same utter contempt for the fans.
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