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Thread: Bayern 5-1 Arsenal (plus all other games for the rest of the season) Match Reaction

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    Bayern aren't that good a side, but then look at our side, it's not that good at all. Who do we have who is really that great in reality, maybe a handful of players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    It's also saying to the fans that if Wenger signs on again it will be because he wants to and we take no responsibility for it, when in fact we are doing everything in our power to get him to stay because we don't want to run a football club ourselves, it's not our cup of tea.
    Cowardice, running right through the club from the cowards at the top through the long standing cowards on the pitch who have never been sanctioned, to the cowards in the stands who can't envisage a club without Wenger. Nobody is responsible for anything, particularly the manager who will go as far as blaming the fans. I'm trying to remember the last time Wenger admitted anything about anything was his fault, even partially. He'll respond with some bullshit line about the manager having to take responsibility, if ever challenged by the sycophantic media. But he'll never offer up without prompting the admission he might just be getting something wrong, after all this time. Who knows what Stan thinks? He's never here, never says a word.

    When Arsene has a plan we back him, when he doesn't we stay silent. Well Wenger hasn't had a plan in a long time so I guess that explains Silent Stan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Bayern aren't that good a side, but then look at our side, it's not that good at all. Who do we have who is really that great in reality, maybe a handful of players.
    Aren't that good? Maybe not by their own incredibly high standards but they're still easily one of the best 4 teams in Europe.

    Must admit it made me chuckle when some fans before the game and when the draw was made claimed Bayern weren't as good etc. That point would be relevant if we actually had anything about us to take advantage of any weaknesses they might have.

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    The thing about Wenger sides is they will never win against the odds, reason being they can't defend, to win games against sides who are in essense superior to you, you have to be able to keep it tight and frustrate them and then catch them with some goals on the break, we're incapable of doing that.

    Therefore when we play a better side we get soundly beaten, simply because of the fact they are a better side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    The thing about Wenger sides is they will never win against the odds, reason being they can't defend, to win games against sides who are in essense superior to you, you have to be able to keep it tight and frustrate them and then catch them with some goals on the break, we're incapable of doing that.

    Therefore when we play a better side we get soundly beaten, simply because of the fact they are a better side.
    You know who's great at that?

    Diego Simeone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Aren't that good? Maybe not by their own incredibly high standards but they're still easily one of the best 4 teams in Europe.

    Must admit it made me chuckle when some fans before the game and when the draw was made claimed Bayern weren't as good etc. That point would be relevant if we actually had anything about us to take advantage of any weaknesses they might have.
    As much as i hate to say it Chelsea would have taken them to the cleaners last night

    Man City, Liverpool and Spurs would all have put up much more of a fight than we did

    You compare them to the PSG side on tuesday, well drilled, athletic, strong......i think PSG would take them apart as well

    Bayern looked good as a result of how spineless we are, we had a decent spell (decent not good) of 20 minutes throughout the entire game and in that time we could and should have scored three goals against them.

    Unlike some of the absolutists on here, i don't think the side needs totally ripping up......it depends on how many of our top players are willing to stay in the summer.

    We definitely need to go out and sign a new left back, a long term replacement for Santi Cazorla and someone who is more physically imposing and better on the ball than Francis Coquelin.

    A top striker would be great but who do you sign?.....if nothing else Wenger has shown that playing Alexis up top pays dividends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Cowardice, running right through the club from the cowards at the top through the long standing cowards on the pitch who have never been sanctioned, to the cowards in the stands who can't envisage a club without Wenger. Nobody is responsible for anything, particularly the manager who will go as far as blaming the fans. I'm trying to remember the last time Wenger admitted anything about anything was his fault, even partially. He'll respond with some bullshit line about the manager having to take responsibility, if ever challenged by the sycophantic media. But he'll never offer up without prompting the admission he might just be getting something wrong, after all this time. Who knows what Stan thinks? He's never here, never says a word.

    When Arsene has a plan we back him, when he doesn't we stay silent. Well Wenger hasn't had a plan in a long time so I guess that explains Silent Stan.
    When has a manager in a interview ever come out and said "it's totally my fault"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    You know who's great at that?

    Diego Simeone.
    Yes, would love him here, instills discipline in his team and they work very hard, he's proven as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    You know who's great at that?

    Diego Simeone.
    We can forget about potential replacements until the Lord and Master Wenger graces us with his decision on whether he's staying, leaving or moving upstairs to be a puppet master. Managers like Simeone won't even glance over here until the selfish bastards who are running Arsenal define the landscape in which a new guy would operate. Schteve McClaren with Wenger's hand up his arse controlling his mouth is far more likely than a Simeone who would want to do things his way.

    I can see a horror appointment on the horizon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Bayern aren't that good a side.

    They're German champions for the last 2 years and in both seasons they got to the semi-final of the CL. They've only lost one game all season.
    We shouldn't be getting spanked by anyone but obviously Bayern are a good side.

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