Match Reaction vs Lincoln City

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

And he based that on his complaint about the referee. We were out of this after the first leg and he's trying to make out we were somehow back in it until the referee intervened. It's disingenuous and a total misread of the situation.

I agree however I am referring specifically to the issue of the four goals we conceded after that point which he did take responsibility for.

Does it change the fact that we fucked the tie up completely in the first leg? No. Is his willingness to brush it aside shocking and pertains to a level of complacency and disconnect that is deeply concerning? Yes

But he did say that

[Letters]

No, no, no, not the same thing at all. Maybe we did get robbed in the second leg, I can't remember but it sounds like we did. Fine. But what about the first leg? Wenger's short attention span again. He's trying to pretend the tie lasted 45 minutes instead of 180. He's his own spin doctor.

He's quite clearly talking about the 2nd leg alone and he's saying the exact same thing you were on the night.
You've reached the final stage of ZD where you have no ability to look objectively at what he says or does. In this case he's saying pretty much the exact thing you were saying but when he says it it's wrong simply because it's him saying it.

Lots to criticise Wenger for right now, there's no need to make stuff up.

[selassie]

He's quite clearly talking about the 2nd leg alone and he's saying the exact same thing you were on the night.
You've reached the final stage of ZD where you have no ability to look objectively at what he says or does. In this case he's saying pretty much the exact thing you were saying but when he says it it's wrong simply because it's him saying it.

Lots to criticise Wenger for right now, there's no need to make stuff up.

The tie was finished in Munich, the end.

Why he had to focus on the referee for the 2nd leg is beyond me. I too think the referee made some very dubious decisions but it didn't affect the tie in the grand scheme of things...we were never at any stage before Kos's sending off close to clawing back the deficit.

Wenger deserves to be dug out on ludicrous stuff like this...

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

That he genuinely believes that we could have got back into the tie if not for the penalty decision?

If he genuinely believes that i don't think being "dug out" would change that for him as absurd as the belief is.

[rodders]

He seems to genuinely believe that winning 5 nil at home against a non league side means the crisis is over.

[selassie]

That he genuinely believes that we could have got back into the tie if not for the penalty decision?

If he genuinely believes that i don't think being "dug out" would change that for him as absurd as the belief is.

Herb...He was happy with the team after they got thumped 10-2 on aggregate in Europe, it is absurd.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Herb...He was happy with the team after they got thumped 10-2 on aggregate in Europe, it is absurd.

Yes i know it's absurd, what i'm saying is for him to be happy with that no amount of digging him out is going to change his mind

[Letters]

Wenger deserves to be dug out on ludicrous stuff like this...

Not really. He was being asked about the 2nd leg, he said what he thought - which is the same as what some people on here thought.
We were doing OK and the ref stepped in, gave them a penalty, sent one of our players off and that changed everything.
Of course that doesn't excuse the first leg results or actually the 2nd leg end result - clearly we were never going to qualify but we shouldn't have collapsed so badly either.
As an assessment of the game itself though it's reasonable enough and in happier times no-one would be making an issue of this.
There are enough things to bash Wenger about, new ones don't need making up.

[selassie]

Not really. He was being asked about the 2nd leg, he said what he thought - which is the same as what some people on here thought.
We were doing OK and the ref stepped in, gave them a penalty, sent one of our players off and that changed everything.
Of course that doesn't excuse the first leg results or actually the 2nd leg end result - clearly we were never going to qualify but we shouldn't have collapsed so badly either.
As an assessment of the game itself though it's reasonable enough and in happier times no-one would be making an issue of this.
There are enough things to bash Wenger about, new ones don't need making up.

Did you read his post match comments after the game? You go have a look on Arsenal.com and tell me what he is saying is right.....

I mentioned on here a couple of weeks ago that Wenger sets his own criteria and achievements and what not...he's doing this post Bayern in a round about way. He was saying we played an outstanding game and he's happy with the team...he's happy that we played well for 45 minutes? One half of the game...it's bonkers Letters and you know it!

[Özim]

Honestly his interviews, brushing aside the pathetic displays and actually giving credit to his players after getting hammered 5-1 is cringeworthy to say the least, we've been thrashed twice by Bayern and beaten by Liverpool and the guy still think his team have done great, delusional doesn't even start do describe him, the guy genuinely thinks he's doing a good job and that his players are doing well, he's a total joke and the fact he even has a chance of staying at this once great club is an even bigger joke.

No other manager would react in such an embarrassing fashion.