ah...so it was....as you wereOriginally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Just Leave Please
Let's Judge @ End Of Season
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ah...so it was....as you were
Why leave the owners and board out of the firing line? They should be getting just as much shit for all of this.
I agree they won't just up and leave if 500 fans shout ill-thought chants at them. But they should get some of the heat.
Wenger has made a rod for his own back, and is 100% culpable for the failure on a footballing level. But Arsenal has lost more than just games of football. It's lost its soul (although Wenger is responsible for some of that too).
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Prior to the sponsorship deals, they were always in the firing line. Whether it be protest about ticket prices, fans chanting 'spend some effing money', holding up 'time for change' banners, voicing anger and discontent at AGM meetings.....they're more than aware that the fans are unhappy. But I think it’s time we be more specific about the problem because we’ve seen plenty of changes here at the club but results remain the same. Some example I can think of.
- New Sponsorship deals to stop Wenger moaning about us being disadvantaged.
- Change of fitness ad conditioning coach to try and help with annual injury crisis.
- Investment in new fitness vest tech to detect when players fatigued and in the ‘red zone’.
- Change of Youth Academy Coaches and set up.
- Change of Assistant Manager (Steve Bould for Pat Rice)
- Appointment of Ivan Gazidis since Wenger was saying he was doing Dein’s job as well as manage.
- New Scout (Leicester City guy)
- Investment in new StatDNA tech (helped us signed Gabriel)
I look at all the above and tend to think that’s the Boards way of standing behind Wenger and supporting him without undermining his authority. That’s why I think a protest against the Board will just result in a reshuffling of the pack. They’ll keep Wenger but just shift a few pieces around him and that won’t fix the problem. We have to at least make it clear to them that we want him gone because we’ve never done that before.
It doesn't help that the hierarchical structure is Wenger-An out of office auto reply and Stan
Therefore the only option is to make it clear to Kroenke that keeping Wenger will be injurious to the crown jewel of his portfolio
If Wenger is here past this season it shows they don't give a damn about the fans we already know that of course, but it would be a more public show. Wenger is a trainwreck these days, no club who cares about football would keep him on given the situation, his comments after beating a pub team sum him up really, but that's Wenger all over, all about the last game, doesn't think about what happened before. His comments about 2 bad weeks illustrate that, problem is the he's got the fans living in fear and unwilling to really speak out about him (as the demonstration showed and the fact people with banners aren't tolerated).
This club has got a small club mentality, we're a big club only in terms of our bank account, in every other way we're not, joke of a big club to be honest.
Is this really Wengers legacy?
Last edited by Özim; 13-03-2017 at 03:16 PM.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...arsene-wenger/Prior to the sponsorship deals, they were always in the firing line. Whether it be protest about ticket prices, fans chanting 'spend some effing money', holding up 'time for change' banners, voicing anger and discontent at AGM meetings.....they're more than aware that the fans are unhappy. But I think it’s time we be more specific about the problem because we’ve seen plenty of changes here at the club but results remain the same. Some example I can think of.
- New Sponsorship deals to stop Wenger moaning about us being disadvantaged.
- Change of fitness ad conditioning coach to try and help with annual injury crisis.
- Investment in new fitness vest tech to detect when players fatigued and in the ‘red zone’.
- Change of Youth Academy Coaches and set up.
- Change of Assistant Manager (Steve Bould for Pat Rice)
- Appointment of Ivan Gazidis since Wenger was saying he was doing Dein’s job as well as manage.
- New Scout (Leicester City guy)
- Investment in new StatDNA tech (helped us signed Gabriel
I look at all the above and tend to think that’s the Boards way of standing behind Wenger and supporting him without undermining his authority. That’s why I think a protest against the Board will just result in a reshuffling of the pack. They’ll keep Wenger but just shift a few pieces around him and that won’t fix the problem. We have to at least make it clear to them that we want him gone because we’ve never done that before.
This what I mean be a reshuffling of the cards. Is this the change we want to see and would it work? I'm against it but but would people here be happy to see a Sporting Director appointed to work alongside Wenger?Exclusive: Arsenal step up hunt for sporting director to ease burden on Arsene Wenger
No way. Need Wenger gone full stop.
Totally agree with you, all protest should be focussed on Wenger as that one change can bring about more immediate benefits to the on pitch performances. This is another smokescreen and they will fudge the issue. Wumger seeing that the tide is turning will gladly accept the appointment (which he'll no doubt choose), knowing fully well this will shift the attention from his own deficiencies. .......and to think he has always been against the "sporting director model", anything to save his skin.
'WHEN HE HAS A PLAN, WE BACK HIM, WHEN HE DOESN'T......WE KEEP QUIET'
Anyone know who Arsene has picked?
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I think there's more chance of getting rid of Wenger by begging him to stay. He'll do the opposite of what the fans want in most cases, maybe he'll be too stubborn to stay if we demand it.
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