Match Reaction vs Lincoln City

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Well I'm not there anyway filling up the seats and putting money into their bank accounts, if everyone did that they would soon change. Protests are IMO mostly for those who want to turn up for matches but aren't happy, the alternative (the better one IMO) is to stay away.

So how often were you going to Arsenal games before you became disillusioned?

Were you ever a season ticket holder for instance?

[Letters]

Actually agree with Zim and said this some time ago.
The stadium holds 60,000, they're not going to care about a couple of hundred people shouting outside the ground.
The only language they understand is money, the only power we have as fans is that they see us as custom. We can't go and support another club - well, maybe a local club - but we can withdraw our custom.
Do that en masse and they'll soon get the message.
Never going to happen but it's the only method of protest which I believe will be effective.

[Niall_Quinn]

Would be nice to be able to afford to go to the games. Not saying I'd go, but it'd be nice to be able to afford that kind of lavish expenditure.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Actually agree with Zim and said this some time ago.
The stadium holds 60,000, they're not going to care about a couple of hundred people shouting outside the ground.
The only language they understand is money, the only power we have as fans is that they see us as custom. We can't go and support another club - well, maybe a local club - but we can withdraw our custom.
Do that en masse and they'll soon get the message.
Never going to happen but it's the only method of protest which I believe will be effective.

But that's not my point, my point is most of us didn't go to games regularly long before Wenger became an issue. So it seems incredibly laughable to make us seem like we are making a big sacrifice from going to one or two games a season to none.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Would be nice to be able to afford to go to the games. Not saying I'd go, but it'd be nice to be able to afford that kind of lavish expenditure.

Precisely, i could afford just about a season ticket but it would impact on other more important things i need to spend on.

But my point is when most of us hardly go anyway, pretending that we are enacting a meaningful boycott and criticising season ticket holders for not being as noble and principled as us seems daft.

[Özim]

So how often were you going to Arsenal games before you became disillusioned?

Were you ever a season ticket holder for instance?

Listen this isn't about me or you, it's a general point about precipitation change, if someone wants change then turning up week in week out on time saying nothing isn't going to make that happen, it will have the opposite effect. The only thing that can make things change is if it's clear to the owner that the gravy train isn't going to carry on if things don't change.

[Özim]

But that's not my point, my point is most of us didn't go to games regularly long before Wenger became an issue. So it seems incredibly laughable to make us seem like we are making a big sacrifice from going to one or two games a season to none.

But we're not just talking about us really, it's a general point about Arsenal fans, particularly those that go to games, if I was an owner only interested in the business side and profits and a couple hundred people demonstrated but I sold 60000 odd tickets every week and made a nice profit I wouldn't bother changing.

Why change a good thing, now you might argue that you have to speculate to accumulate, but there's a risk of course and if you're happy with the situation and profits as they are then again why bother.

[Power n Glory]

But that's not my point, my point is most of us didn't go to games regularly long before Wenger became an issue. So it seems incredibly laughable to make us seem like we are making a big sacrifice from going to one or two games a season to none.

Who is making out that it's a big sacrifice? It's just making clear what's going to be effective across the board. From those that attend regular games, those that watch on TV, overseas fans....

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Listen this isn't about me or you, it's a general point about precipitation change, if someone wants change then turning up week in week out on time saying nothing isn't going to make that happen, it will have the opposite effect. The only thing that can make things change is if it's clear to the owner that the gravy train isn't going to carry on if things don't change.

And what i'm saying is whilst you can hope that fans will make more of a fuss, very few of us here are in a position to chide them for not doing so.

[Letters]

But that's not my point, my point is most of us didn't go to games regularly long before Wenger became an issue. So it seems incredibly laughable to make us seem like we are making a big sacrifice from going to one or two games a season to none.

I gave up my season ticket in protest / because MrsL told me to*


*delete as appropriate