Arsenal vs Man City. 23rd April. 15:00. FA Cup Semi-Final

[Power n Glory]

I've got zero respect for the statement you've just made. Whilst I disagree with you a lot, you at least are capable of constructing sensible well thought out arguments.

Wenger is a has been who doesn't have it at the top level anymore, but all this stuff about him being a Fraud and totally useless are to be honest emotional arguments made by fans (including me I'll admit) who have grown tired of the shitshow we have witnessed.

It doesn't change my mind that I want him to go but he got it right today, how much of that was him and how much of it was the players deciding finally to show a little bit of pride is unknown. Is Guardiola somewhat overrated and similar to Wenger in that he is stubborn and only plays one way? Yes of course but the guy still won six league titles and two European cups to try and make out that's nothing or that it means nothing because of the sides he has managed that's just bizarre.

Guardiola has had a poor first season with City and this probably tops it off, but I wouldn't say City played badly today and arguably were unlucky due to having a goal disallowed which shouldn't have been.

Wenger although he's applying this logic falsely and wrongly to himself is quite right when he says people are very quick to make judgements in the short term.

See my other posts about Zidane and Luis Enrique. Pep is over hyped.

[Niall_Quinn]

See my other posts about Zidane and Luis Enrique. Pep is over hyped.

True that.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

See my other posts about Zidane and Luis Enrique. Pep is over hyped.

I didn't say he wasn't. But in fairness most managers are. Most managers are only as good as their current season.

Conte is being lauded as a genius for what he's achieved with Chelsea but hardly had nothing to spend and it's fair to say Allegri has surpassed what he achieved with Juventus. I think Conte has done well don't get me wrong, but I think views on managers tend to be ephemeral.


I could be wrong but I still think Guardiola will come good with City. And I just thought it was a bit daft to completely rubbish Guardiola based on losing to Wenger.

[Niall_Quinn]

I didn't say he wasn't. But in fairness most managers are. Most managers are only as good as their current season.

Conte is being lauded as a genius for what he's achieved with Chelsea but hardly had nothing to spend and it's fair to say Allegri has surpassed what he achieved with Juventus. I think Conte has done well don't get me wrong, but I think views on managers tend to be ephemeral.


I could be wrong but I still think Guardiola will come good with City. And I just thought it was a bit daft to completely rubbish Guardiola based on losing to Wenger.

I think Guardiola will "come good" too - but only because he has 100 trillion to spend.

[Niall_Quinn]

I didn't say he wasn't. But in fairness most managers are. Most managers are only as good as their current season.

Conte is being lauded as a genius for what he's achieved with Chelsea but hardly had nothing to spend and it's fair to say Allegri has surpassed what he achieved with Juventus. I think Conte has done well don't get me wrong, but I think views on managers tend to be ephemeral.


I could be wrong but I still think Guardiola will come good with City. And I just thought it was a bit daft to completely rubbish Guardiola based on losing to Wenger.

If you lose to Wenger you are a MASSIVE mug. Or you just don't have even basic finances to build a team of even average players. Wenger is the worst manager in football - by a long, long way. If you have similar resources to him and end up losing to him then that's utterly humiliating. And I BET most managers know that by now. Even worse, if you have a billion quid to spend and then go and lose to a shmuck like Wenger, Jesus, that's awful.

[Power n Glory]

I didn't say he wasn't. But in fairness most managers are. Most managers are only as good as their current season.

Conte is being lauded as a genius for what he's achieved with Chelsea but hardly had nothing to spend and it's fair to say Allegri has surpassed what he achieved with Juventus. I think Conte has done well don't get me wrong, but I think views on managers tend to be ephemeral.


I could be wrong but I still think Guardiola will come good with City. And I just thought it was a bit daft to completely rubbish Guardiola based on losing to Wenger.

I'm not writing off Pep's chances with Man City and it's much more than just losing to Wenger, as explained. When Luis Enrique has won the treble with Barca in his debut season and Zidane wins the CL in his debut season, it takes the shine off Pep's trophy haul with Barca and especially when you see him struggling in this league.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Is Delusions P N G or have I lost the plot?

[GP]

Is Delusions P N G or have I lost the plot?

Why can't it be both?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Touche, you trump loving git!

[GP]

Touche, you trump loving git!

Low energy. Sad. You lost bigly.