Wenger Referendum IV

[Letters]

Strange thing to say. Prime example of why there has been and will continue to be a civil war.

There's a civil war because only extremes of opinions are allowed. It has become so polarizing. And you can blame Wenger for that if you want but he's not telling us to fight amongst ourselves.
I wish he'd gone on a relative high. As we all suspected, he hasn't. The only options now really are to get behind the team (if not Wenger) next season or just tune out from it all.

[Niall_Quinn]

There's a civil war because only extremes of opinions are allowed. It has become so polarizing. And you can blame Wenger for that if you want but he's not telling us to fight amongst ourselves.
I wish he'd gone on a relative high. As we all suspected, he hasn't. The only options now really are to get behind the team (if not Wenger) next season or just tune out from it all.

There's the other option you haven't mentioned. Making Wenger's life a living hell at every match until even he decides to fuck off. Like normal fans would do at any other club, for example.

Only reason I'll probably tune out is because the football, and particularly Wenger's horrendous tippy tap ball, bores me to tears. If the football was still okay that would at least be something. The vast majority of fans have always stood behind the team. The idea they haven't is another myth used by Wenger to deflect from the reality.

[Letters]

I personally think staying away would be more effective than making Wenger Our banners and paying a lot of money to wave them in the ground.
For one thing it's a bit more dignified and it hurts board in the only area they have any feeling, the pocket. While Wenger continues to be a cash cow then have no reason to want to unseat him.

[GP]

[Niall_Quinn]

Staying away plays right into their hands. They have plenty of tourist fans lined up, I'm sure. The type of fan they'd prefer anyway. Fans with zero expectation beyond having a nice day out at a major London venue. Selfies and Snapchat all the way. Look at me ma! The 4th Place Crew.

If fans really want to hurt Kroenke and his little empire then target the sponsors. Under no circumstances whatsoever buy anything from any organisation associated with Arsenal. Until Wenger leaves. And turn up to the ground, fuck the banners and start vocally expressing dissent in terms that will make Sky TV turn down the microphones and apologise profusely. Make it so they don't dare televise a game.

Difficult to achieve, given the number of plastics that have infected the fan base. One thing you don't want to do though is invite more plastics in the door.

As I said, if the football was in any way watchable it might be worth it. But it seems these bastards have thought of everything.

[Letters]

Tbh both solutions require more coordinated effort than is realistic.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yes, I think it is probably best not to try at all and just accept things as they have been handed down. The masters know what's best and they have our best interests at heart. If you don't try, you can't fail.

For me though, Cambridge Town is down the road. I might give it a season with those pubbers to try to reconnect to football at a less corrupt level. Arsenal I'm not interested in as of today. It was getting that way for a long time anyway. Wenger's personal fiefdom is not something that appeals and the thought of two more years of this (at least, and I bet it will be longer) holds zero appeal. If I was still going to the games though, I wouldn't be sitting on my hands. People will have t make their own decisions, but for those who intend to stay on it serves them in no way whatsoever to be passive about this.

[Özim]

As expected nothing is going to change at this club, I've seen comments in places that some people have been convinced by the last couple of months he can still do it after a few wins and the FA Cup win, that end of season run bought him some grace and allowed him to sign that contract without too much bother.

This club is a shadow of what it once was, offering little or no entertainment, no excitement and no hope for change, but clearly it doesn't care one bit. At the end of the day Wenger and his cronies have made the club what it is today and that's nothing to be proud of, his comments about it being the treatment he received being a disgrace was just embarrassing because he's the biggest disgrace at this club, a man who really only cares about number 1.

Might as well rename this club Arsene Wenger because it pretty much sums it up, he's become bigger than the club.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Yes, I think it is probably best not to try at all and just accept things as they have been handed down. The masters know what's best and they have our best interests at heart. If you don't try, you can't fail.

For me though, Cambridge Town is down the road. I might give it a season with those pubbers to try to reconnect to football at a less corrupt level. Arsenal I'm not interested in as of today. It was getting that way for a long time anyway. Wenger's personal fiefdom is not something that appeals and the thought of two more years of this (at least, and I bet it will be longer) holds zero appeal. If I was still going to the games though, I wouldn't be sitting on my hands. People will have t make their own decisions, but for those who intend to stay on it serves them in no way whatsoever to be passive about this.

You devious twat, when you mentioned a while back you were in down in London mingling amongst human beings I guessed you might be from in and around Cambridgeshire and you said I was wrong (although you were probably pissed)

Frankly I think if we no longer invest in Arsenal through merchandise or tickets of any kind, than they might be fucked. The Johnny foreigners like supoorting successful teams, and I think there is only so many match tickets you can flog to selfie taking tourists.

So I absolutely would encourage everyone not to renew season tickets. Even if it changes nothing, fuck it why are you forking over money to this shit show.

[Power n Glory]

Staying away plays right into their hands. They have plenty of tourist fans lined up, I'm sure. The type of fan they'd prefer anyway. Fans with zero expectation beyond having a nice day out at a major London venue. Selfies and Snapchat all the way. Look at me ma! The 4th Place Crew.

If fans really want to hurt Kroenke and his little empire then target the sponsors. Under no circumstances whatsoever buy anything from any organisation associated with Arsenal. Until Wenger leaves. And turn up to the ground, fuck the banners and start vocally expressing dissent in terms that will make Sky TV turn down the microphones and apologise profusely. Make it so they don't dare televise a game.

Difficult to achieve, given the number of plastics that have infected the fan base. One thing you don't want to do though is invite more plastics in the door.

As I said, if the football was in any way watchable it might be worth it. But it seems these bastards have thought of everything.

That's not true anymore. There aren’t that many tourist Arsenal fans to keep making up the numbers every game of the season. Any casuals that just want to see a game in a massive stadium can find cheaper tickets elsewhere around London.

It would be best if fans could stay away from games and not buy the merchandise. Kroenke may still fire Wenger fresh into a new deal if his pockets bleed enough cash. It happened with the LA Rams long underperforming coach, Jeff Fisher. The problem had to stare Kroenke dead in the face. He thought St. Louis was a struggling city that couldn’t afford to support three major sport teams. So he moved the Rams to LA. No excuses can made in LA about a struggling city. Fans have the money to attend games. So when he sees their still struggling to fill the stadium in LA, it’s obvious it’s a sporting problem and he sacks the head coach.

The only way failure will translate to Stan is if the stadium is empty. He’s a real estate guy. Sponsorships not the bread and butter for him. He bought us when we had shite sponsorship deals but had just moved into a new stadium and able to pay off our debt just off the revenue generated from ticket sales. As long the stadiums full, failure won’t translate.