Summer Transfer Misery 2017/18

[Özim]

Ahtletico were willing to pay the price, but unfortunately they're under a transfer ban at the moment.

We're not interested in Aubemeyang, moreover hes a few years older, since we're not interested it's not an either or for us, it's Lacazette or nothing it seems.

At the end of the day Aulas wants top dollar for a player who's scored goals regularly, why would he accept a lowball offer when another club were willing to pay more and he's in no hurry to sell, he's hardly going to do Arsenal any favours seeing as he's not a fan of our manager.

Problem with Wenger is he has no plan and will never pay the going rate, this means we end up spending all summer doing nothing but signing cheap nobodies and then scramble at the end of the transfer window a few weeks into the season (totally illogical) to sign anybody we can. At the end of the day you either pay the asking price or move on to someone else.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Herb, it's not our money, if he costs 57million so be it. I do see your side of things and do question whether he is that much of an upgrade on Giroud...but 50million buys you that calibre of striker these days. If Wenger has identified him as the solution then he needs to go and buy him, we are no longer in a position to drag our feet over valuations, we need an improvement on what we have and must just pay the price.

Would Aubemeyang want to come here? That's one of the issues I believe we have now...players are not overly keen on coming here.

No it's the clubs money, and we know that Wenger prevaricated over Mustafi for so long because he wanted more money to buy a striker with.

Even with more money to work with, it's fair to say Wenger has to operate within a budget, now that doesn't absolve Wenger, nor am I suggesting we can't afford to go on a spree this season but it's fair to say that if we spent above and beyond on X player we have less to spend on others. The trouble with Wenger is that he's always willing to overspend in some areas, but then under spends in others.

[Özim]

If we weren't lumbered with players like Gibbs, Debuchy, Jenkinson etc basically players we can't get rid of we might have more money. The reality is we dragged our heels for years not spending on what we needed and now we've been stung because prices are sky high and we're in desperate need with 2/3 of our best players with jsut a year left on their contract, all of our own making really.

There's no excuse really.

[selassie]

No it's the clubs money, and we know that Wenger prevaricated over Mustafi for so long because he wanted more money to buy a striker with.

Even with more money to work with, it's fair to say Wenger has to operate within a budget, now that doesn't absolve Wenger, nor am I suggesting we can't afford to go on a spree this season but it's fair to say that if we spent above and beyond on X player we have less to spend on others. The trouble with Wenger is that he's always willing to overspend in some areas, but then under spends in others.

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Wenger is basically the reason we are in this mess through years of dithering and lowballing. We have had plenty of opportunities to buy a Striker....it's of no coincidence that we haven't done to date.

I agree with your points though, Wenger has to work with a budget and has form for overspending in areas and on players that we don't necessarily need.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

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Wenger is basically the reason we are in this mess through years of dithering and lowballing. We have had plenty of opportunities to buy a Striker....it's of no coincidence that we haven't done to date.

I agree with your points though, Wenger has to work with a budget and has form for overspending in areas and on players that we don't necessarily need.

Precisely it's not about absolving Wenger, it's why spend 57 million on Lacazette if decent scouting could find us an equivalent player for less and have more to spend on other areas.

[Niall_Quinn]

I personally haven't spoken to anyone who thinks that.

That's because you have no friends.

[Power n Glory]

Precisely it's not about absolving Wenger, it's why spend 57 million on Lacazette if decent scouting could find us an equivalent player for less and have more to spend on other areas.

Like Perez? Like Welbeck? Like Podolski and Giroud? Haven’t we tried this for the last 5 years? The talent pool has gotten smaller whilst the fees have risen by a considerable amount. We really need to stop with this bargain bucket mentality because it’s costing us in the long run. Buy cheap, you buy twice. We’ve spent enough money on dud cheap strikers to be able to afford a top class striker.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Like Perez? Like Welbeck? Like Podolski and Giroud? Haven’t we tried this for the last 5 years? The talent pool has gotten smaller whilst the fees have risen by a considerable amount. We really need to stop with this bargain bucket mentality because it’s costing us in the long run. Buy cheap, you buy twice. We’ve spent enough money on dud cheap strikers to be able to afford a top class striker.

Again I think that's a problem with scouting as much as it is mentality.

Lacazette has done well in scoring terms but at 26 has never been tested in a top league and for 57 million?. I maintain that if he were really that good, we wouldn't be having this discussion because he'd already be at a top club. At the very least it isn't just us baulking at his price tag, Atletico Madrid agreed to buy him but I wonder how much they agreed with Lyon for his services.

Podolski was a top player before he joined us, and with Lucas Perez it's only Wengers intransigence that has stopped him playing more.

I'm just frankly not convinced that Lacazette is the answer to our lack of an out and out league winning goal scorer to part with that cash for him, I'm just not.

[Marc Overmars]

In fairness we still need to operate within a budget, that budget might have grown now but it doesn't mean we can really spunk 40-50m on multiple players like other clubs can. Wenger is not the right man to spend that money but I do think if/when we spend big, it has to be the right player, because we don't have someone handing over signed blank cheques to go again if it's not.

[Power n Glory]

Again I think that's a problem with scouting as much as it is mentality.

Lacazette has done well in scoring terms but at 26 has never been tested in a top league and for 57 million?. I maintain that if he were really that good, we wouldn't be having this discussion because he'd already be at a top club. At the very least it isn't just us baulking at his price tag, Atletico Madrid agreed to buy him but I wonder how much they agreed with Lyon for his services.

Podolski was a top player before he joined us, and with Lucas Perez it's only Wengers intransigence that has stopped him playing more.

I'm just frankly not convinced that Lacazette is the answer to our lack of an out and out league winning goal scorer to part with that cash for him, I'm just not.

It’s a mentality problem. You say he’s unproven and getting on a bit at 26 years old but we put in a bid for Vardy last season! We’re cheap and spend freely on the cheapest option. Lacazette probably isn’t the solution. But that’s because we have a poor manager. I personally think we could get a hell of a lot more out of the current squad. But as far as how much we spend on a particular player, I’ve gone past caring. We’re doing the exact same thing as we did last season and going through the same motions. I was involved in the same discussion last summer when it came to our strikers so I understand where you’re coming from but something has to change at the club. So far, I don’t see that.