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Thread: Summer Transfer Misery 2017/18

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    He's going to prove how great he is by getting 4th this season. #progress

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I agree with this, but it's maximum profit with minimum effort IMO, realistically in the long term investing and being successful would reap much greater rewards, but ultimately there's a risk, one we don't want to take. It's an asset for Kroenke and as long as his asset grows in value and makes a nice profit every year he's happy, he can use this asset to make money elsewhere in areas he's more familiar with because let's be honest he's neither interested in football, nor does he have any knowledge about it.
    Aye, I agree with this. What I don't fully understand is why we are not trying to do more to maximise our global appeal. I'm not talking about investing millions in marketing campaigns but more about aggressively exposes ourselves to the American and Asian markets like our rivals do. I actually think Gazidis has absolutely no power or say so at all. All decisions irrespective of what they are appear to be being made by Wenger and signed off by Kroenke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    I'm pretty sure he will get hounded out this season, he's made his position untenable IMO. It's different to previous seasons, he is managing a toxic and divided squad now if the Reports are to be believed. This season is going to be very messy.
    Time will tell, I think what's more likely is he'll pick up a few results against small teams and discontent will become less apparent, then he'll lose a couple and it'll come back and so on. At the end of the season when we have nothing to play for he'll win a few meaningless games and that will be that.

    The guy isn't leaving unless fans stop turning up and make it untenable for him, I can't see that happening, I've already heard the line that tourists will replace fans that don't turn up as an excuse, they won't, tourists won't be that bothered about seeing Arsenal, not at the prices they charge, we're not Barcelona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Maybe they let Wenger have free reign, seeing as he delivers profit every year they are happy with his performance (Kroenke is anyway), this means Kroenke doens't have to get involved and has a business that runs itself whilst he can concentrate on things he's interested in, it's a sidenote for him nothing more, one that he doesn't hae to put any effort into.

    The wages thing is all Wenger, he has these crazy ideas about paying kids big money and re-signin up players who have never achieved anything on more money on long term contract and is utterly incompetent. Ironically he's let our 3 best players run down their contracts, that's Wenger all over though, clueless.

    Kroenke doesn't care as long as his asset grows in value and he makes a profit, Wenger it totally incompetent and ridiculously stubborn and has way too much power over all aspsects, he doesn't see what everyone else see's and doesn't really value success on the pitch that highly, his measurement of success is finances.
    The thing is though this is the first time in five years we have even made over 20million from a single player sale

    So yeah in general the club is ticking along nicely in terms of share value mainly due to tv money and ticket prices

    Accumulatively Wengers shit socialist wage structure has seen us lose multiple millions in cash in the last few years

    And yet he wouldn't give Ozil and Sanchez more money because he didn't like them earning more than him.

    So he is essentially losing the club money as we are likely to lose both for nothing next season. So the maximising profit argument doesn't make sense.

    Kroenke is absentee owner and it will take a lot for our financial up fuckery to be a danger to him as an investor.

    Basically the whole thing is just about utter and total neglect.

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    I have no idea what’s going on. Seems like the Board are gripped by the Cult of Wenger. This can’t be a simple cash grab. It doesn’t add up. I’ve always said the wage bill was too high and if anyone were trying to maximise profit, they’d look to our wage bill first. That hasn’t happened.

    We ended up with a £30m profit from the transfer window. That’s peanuts and couldn’t have been there overall target. Why not sell Sanchez for £60m if we need quick money? If he’s disruptive to the squad and team harmony, why keep would we keep him? Same can be said for Mustafi. If Wenger doesn’t rate him, why keep him and if the Board only care about money, why not cash in? Why not cash in on Chambers? If Wenger has said the Board may overrule him and he’ll accept their decision, why in the world would they not oblige and just sell the players if they’re more interested in profit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur View Post
    I have no idea what’s going on. Seems like the Board are gripped by the Cult of Wenger. This can’t be a simple cash grab. It doesn’t add up. I’ve always said the wage bill was too high and if anyone were trying to maximise profit, they’d look to our wage bill first. That hasn’t happened.

    We ended up with a £30m profit from the transfer window. That’s peanuts and couldn’t have been there overall target. Why not sell Sanchez for £60m if we need quick money? If he’s disruptive to the squad and team harmony, why keep would we keep him? Same can be said for Mustafi. If Wenger doesn’t rate him, why keep him and if the Board only care about money, why not cash in? Why not cash in on Chambers? If Wenger has said the Board may overrule him and he’ll accept their decision, why in the world would they not oblige and just sell the players if they’re more interested in profit?
    It is very hard to make sense of, and I think it's because we are trying to find sensible explanations for it

    The only conclusion I've been able to come to. Is that because Wenger is the only one at the club with extensive football knowledge that they just don't want to rattle his cage and would prefer to leave him to do as he sees fit.

    Also we saw that when they do intervene, he basically disrespected his supposed bosses and shat all over them. Gazidis and Keswick don't have the where with all to just up and go, so they just I imagine sit back and think do what you like.
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    But whilst we here let's give some thought to Mahmood Ahmedinijad look a like Ryad Mahrez waiting all day at Charles De Gaulle airport waiting to get a flight to who knows where in the anticipation that he'd be moving there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Time will tell, I think what's more likely is he'll pick up a few results against small teams and discontent will become less apparent, then he'll lose a couple and it'll come back and so on. At the end of the season when we have nothing to play for he'll win a few meaningless games and that will be that.

    The guy isn't leaving unless fans stop turning up and make it untenable for him, I can't see that happening, I've already heard the line that tourists will replace fans that don't turn up as an excuse, they won't, tourists won't be that bothered about seeing Arsenal, not at the prices they charge, we're not Barcelona.
    People not going isn't going to happen on a scale that will impact upon the finances. This is exacerbated by the fact London is one of the worlds biggest tourist destinations and Arsenal is seen as a day out. Not just by visiting Arsenal fans, but fans of football in general.

    Sadly for us, these fans are by far the most lucrative. No visit is complete for them without a visit to the Club shop, concessions, museum, etc.

    So even if numbers drop, it doesn't matter. Many of the people not turning up are Season ticket holders, Silver and Red members who have either already ploughed their money into the coffers and/or won't be spending any further money other than at surrounding pubs and takeaways which means nothing to the Club.

    So while overall attendance drops, revenue through more tickets available to visitors actually increases.

    It is a fucked up world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall Quinn View Post
    People not going isn't going to happen on a scale that will impact upon the finances. This is exacerbated by the fact London is one of the worlds biggest tourist destinations and Arsenal is seen as a day out. Not just by visiting Arsenal fans, but fans of football in general.

    Sadly for us, these fans are by far the most lucrative. No visit is complete for them without a visit to the Club shop, concessions, museum, etc.

    So even if numbers drop, it doesn't matter. Many of the people not turning up are Season ticket holders, Silver and Red members who have either already ploughed their money into the coffers and/or won't be spending any further money other than at surrounding pubs and takeaways which means nothing to the Club.

    So while overall attendance drops, revenue through more tickets available to visitors actually increases.

    It is a fucked up world.

    The protests will have to be about the visual effect and just showing discontent. They don't care that they've dropped the CL money. They're happy to let Ozil and Sanchez walk on a free and given up the chance to make at least £100m in the transfer window.

    I think Wenger is here on a sympathy vote. It makes no sense to keep on otherwise.

    Fans will just have to protest all season and see what happens.

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    Apparently we're safeguarding money for the next 2 transfer windows that's why we didn't have money left. That's a laugh and a half, we never by anyone in January and don't spend in the summer either!

    1:11 in the below video.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41119891

    Apparently we've improved the squad where Wenger wanted to, left back and up front and are looking to challenge this season
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