This Weekend's Fixtures & West Ham v Huddersfield (09/10/11 Sept).

[Thierrymon]

And it's 5-0. Pool learning to collapse from the best

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Citeh 5-0 Liverpool, FT.

Ox.

Neville's first minute analysis.

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Southampton: Forster, Soares, Hoedt, Stephens, Bertrand, Davis, Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Boufal, Redmond, Gabbiadini.
Subs: McCarthy, Yoshida, Long, Austin, Tadic, Lemina, McQueen.

Watford: Gomes, Holebas, Kabasele, Kaboul, Femenia, Doucoure, Cleverley, Chalobah, Carrillo, Richarlison, Gray.
Subs: Karnezis, Deeney, Success, Mariappa, Watson, Janmaat, Capoue.

[Niall_Quinn]

Honestly, I think the pair of them are far more naturally talented than Henderson is. We pulled off a coup getting Ramsey ahead of Utd at the time and Xhaka was the most talented young midfielder in the BL when he was there.

But Henderson's been far more effective in the league because he knows how to make use of his skillset to the fullest and thats thanks to the managerial brilliance of Klopp,
whereas like sadly a lot of other talented players under Wenger recently, our duo end up wasting their abilities due to the shitty style of football we've been playing where our midfield has no protection and end up looking like clowns.

Interesting stuff you are raising here because it's very true, the manager may not be on the pitch but the players take his philosophy and organisation, training and purpose onto the pitch. Ramsey WAS a great young talent, and we know there's a great player in there because we caught a glimpse. Xhaka looked the most composed player in the world, BEFORE he joined us. You just have to watch Henderson to see he's very limited and relies far more on his lungs and heart than the connection between his brain and his feet.

Wenger versus Klopp. There's no comparison. Swap them and Liverpool are mid table and we're challenging for the title.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Honestly, I think the pair of them are far more naturally talented than Henderson is. We pulled off a coup getting Ramsey ahead of Utd at the time and Xhaka was the most talented young midfielder in the BL when he was there.

But Henderson's been far more effective in the league because he knows how to make use of his skillset to the fullest and thats thanks to the managerial brilliance of Klopp,
whereas like sadly a lot of other talented players under Wenger recently, our duo end up wasting their abilities due to the shitty style of football we've been playing where our midfield has no protection and end up looking like clowns.

You bought Ramsey 9 years ago and it's difficult to say that he's massively kicked on and fulfilled that potential imo. And Xhaka most certainly wasn't the most talented young midfielder in the Bundesliga.

Henderson played very, very well under Rodgers as well, so it's wrong to say it's all down to Klopp. In any case, it's a side issue.

I'd 5-0 to be a Liverpool fan right now or something.

[dostoy]

Watching Leicester - Chelsea and Everton - Spuds today.

[Letters]

Citeh 5-0 Liverpool, FT.

Ox.

Neville's first minute analysis.

Klopp

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Neverton 0-1 Spuds, Kane.

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Southampton 0-1 Watford, Doucoure.

What does Silva know about the Premier League anyway?

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Everton 0-2 Spuds, Eriksen.

Leicester 0-1 Chelsea, Morata.