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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Well as highly articulate as that outburst was as always

    But this all boils down still to I want to win the Internet.

    At the end of the day, there are things people on this board people aren’t going to agree on and we can go round and round ad Infinitum.

    If you are insisting that something needs to be done, the only important thing is getting agreement on what’s to be done. And for that you do have that incredibly broad consensus....Wenger has to go.
    Does it?

    I'm pretty sure my message today has been let's stop making fucking excuses, let's unify the fan base and let's kick these cunts out of our club. Mainly because that's the ONLY option left if anyone is even interested in seeing this club go back to what it is supposed to be doing. Not winning titles because we are entitled, but trying to win titles because that's the purpose of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Does it?

    I'm pretty sure my message today has been let's stop making fucking excuses, let's unify the fan base and let's kick these cunts out of our club. Mainly because that's the ONLY option left if anyone is even interested in seeing this club go back to what it is supposed to be doing. Not winning titles because we are entitled, but trying to win titles because that's the purpose of the game.
    No what you are doing is replaying history

    If everyone accepts Wenger has to go, I’m not sure what else you are looking for

    The only sensible area of meaningful discussion then becomes how do we achieve this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    No what you are doing is replaying history

    If everyone accepts Wenger has to go, I’m not sure what else you are looking for
    Eh?

    I'm doing the precise opposite, predicting the future. That's what we were arguing about, right? Who was best at it? Well at least we can all predict the future this time around without argument, or so you would think.

    There's no Wenger out btw. Not as things stand. Not unless the still significant body of arseholes who sing his name whenever he is challenged get their shit in gear. That's what's got to happen if anything is to be changed and if Wenger is to be forced out. For sure, the rest of us have been here a while. How much longer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Eh?

    I'm doing the precise opposite, predicting the future. That's what we were arguing about, right? Who was best at it? Well at least we can all predict the future this time around without argument, or so you would think.

    There's no Wenger out btw. Not as things stand. Not unless the still significant body of arseholes who sing his name whenever he is challenged get their shit in gear. That's what's got to happen if anything is to be changed and if Wenger is to be forced out. For sure, the rest of us have been here a while. How much longer?
    Sigh

    Your attempts to predict the future are pointless especially given in your last rant you suggested that a decline as sharp as you imagine wouldn’t compel Kroenke to act.

    Now I don’t agree with that but it’s irrelevant given that in both our predictions the common denominator is that without Fans doing something Wenger remains, in your scenario possibly fighting relegation, in mine idling between 5th and 6th.

    Now if we both agree albeit for different reasons that Kroenke won’t act, that leaves Wenger

    I know you boast a lot about how much you drink, but that surely shouldn’t be difficult for a man as intelligent as you to understand.

    Focus on what we agree on, we agree that in the immediate future at least Kroenke will sit on his hands

    So Wenger as I’ve said now has to be the target. Bring the displeasure shown at away games to the Emirates.

    If he complains that it’s us affecting results, hold our resolve and hound him out.

    Instead of trying to nail down what you were right or wrong about five years ago and what you might be right or wrong about in the future. How about doing things in the here and now?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Sigh

    Your attempts to predict the future are pointless especially given in your last rant you suggested that a decline as sharp as you imagine wouldn’t compel Kroenke to act.

    Now I don’t agree with that but it’s irrelevant given that in both our predictions the common denominator is that without Fans doing something Wenger remains, in your scenario possibly fighting relegation, in mine idling between 5th and 6th.

    Now if we both agree albeit for different reasons that Kroenke won’t act, that leaves Wenger

    I know you boast a lot about how much you drink, but that surely shouldn’t be difficult for a man as intelligent as you to understand.

    Focus on what we agree on, we agree that in the immediate future at least Kroenke will sit on his hands

    So Wenger as I’ve said now has to be the target. Bring the displeasure shown at away games to the Emirates.

    If he complains that it’s us affecting results, hold our resolve and hound him out.

    Instead of trying to nail down what you were right or wrong about five years ago and what you might be right or wrong about in the future. How about doing things in the here and now?.
    Alright, well played. I thought you were serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Alright, well played. I thought you were serious.
    What’s your counter suggestion other than trying to force a consensus on who was right and when, and who will be right and to what extent
    You agree that this needs to be addressed so what’s your suggestion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    What’s your counter suggestion other than trying to force a consensus on who was right and when, and who will be right and to what extent
    You agree that this needs to be addressed so what’s your suggestion?
    My suggestion is the fans who continue to support Wenger, and they clearly exist even if you claim they don't, get on board so there can be a united front against this owner and this manager.
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