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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    People like Moh and Ty are entrenched, they are never going to change their minds

    Ty at least is honest enough to admit it that there will never be a time when he won’t support Wenger

    Moh hides behind oh well if I trusted the board to get in a proper replacement I would back getting rid of him

    Knowing there’s no chance of Kroenke going or a significant change up in the running of the club

    Be careful what you wish for holds no pull, what exactly are they afraid of happening?
    Stockholm syndrome, they're just afraid of the unknown. But anything has to be more exciting than knowing exactly what is going to happen every season. Be careful what you wish for? I'm pretty sure no one wished for what we're currently getting.

    Thing is, it's not going to get worse than it already has because we're part of the established status quo and have the money to ensure we remain at a certain level. This is why I don't understand anyone telling me to be cautious about life after Wenger because I can't fucking wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Stockholm syndrome, they're just afraid of the unknown. But anything has to be more exciting than knowing exactly what is going to happen every season. Be careful what you wish for? I'm pretty sure no one wished for what we're currently getting.

    Thing is, it's not going to get worse than it already has because we're part of the established status quo and have the money to ensure we remain at a certain level. This is why I don't understand anyone telling me to be cautious about life after Wenger because I can't fucking wait!
    I was once like them...
    I think when money was tight (and it was, let's not start all this revisionism) Wenger did reasonably well to keep us "up there". In that era I don't think it was unreasonable to think that we should give Wenger some benefit of the doubt and hope that when the money started flowing again we'd be back up there. The signings of Ozil and Sanchez and the FA Cups seemed like promising signs but we are still woefully short when it he comes to the biggest prizes. We still can't compete financially with Chelsea, City or Utd but we can certainly do a lot more than we are.

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    No title challenges in a decade and barely escaping relegation last season means he needs to go now.

    Time for people like Letters to stop defending literally everything he does.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Et tu, GP?


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    I don't speak French unlike your bumchum wenga
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    I don't know how we can be expected to beat clubs that park the bus at their own stadiums. Not when Utd and the gypos have so much money. If we had FFP, our 50 mill striker who was on the bench might have scored. And look at what the chav money has done to Kos. Look at the mistakes he's making. As for Utd, don't get me started. Money, money, money, and off goes Ramsey running up the field. Pep gets his chequebook out, Bif misses an open goal. We could have signed Lemar for 50 mill, but Oh No, Abramovich has loads of cash!

    These are the realities Wenger has had to deal with. And he's done pretty well. All this while he was digging out the foundations for the new stadium and hauling the bricks in. Yet fans complain about his pay rise. They should try building a stadium themselves, rather than moaning when Xhaka passes straight to the opposition causing us to concede a goal.
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    :shitpost:

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    Arsenal’s utter lack of creativity in midfield...

    A standout stat from the first-half was Jack Wilshere’s 100 per cent pass accuracy. While that seems impressive, it spoke for an issue Arsenal had throughout the game.

    They decided to field Mesut Ozil in a midfield three from the off. Him and Wilshere played as No 8s while Granit Xhaka had the job of guarding the back four.

    The problem was that nobody was playing passes from midfield that offered any penetration. Wilshere seemed happy to play it side to side. Ozil grew frustrated at a lack of movement ahead of him in the second-half, screaming at those in front before playing another pass across the middle.
    Giroud has only scored once in eight starts. It might be worth accepting he is best as a super sub.
    Arsenal have become so boring... from issues in midfield to anonymous players in attack, Arsene Wenger has problems to solve to finish in top four
    When it comes to Wilshere, it’s easy enough to make all of your passes reach a team-mate if you are taking no risks. He only created one chance all match. He was doing Xhaka’s job rather than breaking forward, as was expected of him.
    Several years late to the party, but finally the media is catching up with the fans.
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    Meanwhile, back on Fantasy Island in the Bubble Complex...

    "There is one very accurate and objective way to assess how well and how consistently clubs perform in this area of transfers over time," Gazidis said. "This method is accurate enough to be the industry standard way to analyse.


    "It is very simply to compare team performance by a series of objective metrics, usually league position or points, against expenditure on transfers.


    "No club has a perfect record every year under this scrutiny but Arsenal has probably been, of the big clubs certainly, the most consistently over-performing team over time.


    "That is, despite the criticism we get and the emotion here in the room, and despite some very loud subjective narratives and a great deal of inaccurate information.
    Is that why we won't spend big on transfers? So we can "objectively" be the best performing team in the league? But wait a minute! Didn't we make a profit in the transfer window? That's a negative spend. When you divide our performance by a negative number, isn't the answer negative too? Does this mean we have been less than shit?

    Maybe, like somebody else, I'm not very good at maths.
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