He's staying.
For as long as he's winning trophies and getting us into cup finals he's going nowhere.
You enter 4 competitions every season and if he's winning 1 or getting us into finals then Stan won't see a reason to let him go. He flies in once a year and if he sees Arsenal fans with scarfs and ribbons aloft urging the team on and going mental at a cup final that'll hardly convince him to give the old goat the boot.
We still continue to exist after this season and beyond Wenger's tenure. But you have to question the sort of state Wenger will leave us in once gone. I get the argument about keeping the powder dry and not allowing Wenger to waste anymore money so that we have the resources for the new manager to rebuild the squad once Wenger leaves. But the way we've courted Aubameyang in public suggests that this isn't the strategy. If we come back empty handed, it's another knock to our reputation. That's not something that can repaired so easily. If we fail to qualify for the Top 4 again, lose more players in the summer and fail to sign any marquee players, it will make it even harder to attract top players to the club once Wenger is gone and just pushes up the amount of money we'd have to pay to get them here. We can't afford to let this get out of hand. It may take years to recover if we keep messing around like this.Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
No true, we wouldn’t have sent a contingent out to Germany if we had no intention of spending any money until Wenger goes.
The strategy if it can be called as such, is not wanting to spend 60million on a 28 year old. And until Wednesday we won’t know if we’ve been made to look bloody stupid or not.
My attitude as I say is indifference, I like Aubemeyang....there’s no doubt I’d love him to play for us and as it’s not my money I’m not going to care if we end up paying 60 million for him.
But equally I’m not going to get upset if we don’t.
Kroenke cares about money. Even if CL money is peanuts compared to tv money. He looks upon Arsenal as an asset, and the value of that asset diminishes if we consistently are locked out of the top four.
I know Kroenke doesn’t give a fuck about the sport, but he’s not stupid. He knows that winning small trophies (and who says we are going to win anymore of those in the future) mean nothing.
Yeah I do agree with that. I have always said if he goes it'll be a commercial decision. I wonder how 2 years out of the CL will look in the accounts? Although the TV deals go some way in diminishing the issue of no CL revenue.
I got my hopes up so much last season. We finally had protests, banners and even planes, the pressure was on him from all quarters including the media... and he got a contract extension.
So I'm not getting my hopes up.
He's staying
We're out of the CL (the competition for Europe's genuinely top clubs). So that's a blow to the prestige of the club.
We've just lost our top player to a rival - AGAIN. Another smack to prestige.
And now, we either have enough clout left to sign a replacement and try to get back into the CL, or we don't.
It's not really about the player. It's about our ability to respond and attract players of that calibre. Football will take notice if we can't. If the trend continues to be towards second tier status, eventually that trend is going to be difficult to reverse no matter who is managing the club.
The question is, who now has the final say, yes or no, on expenditure on transfers? We don't know the answer but if it's still Wenger there was no point in our staff ever boarding that plane for Germany. It's all just a show if Wenger retains the final say on transfer targets and what we are willing to pay for them.
We've done this several times before. Got the fans reengaged with the lure of a big transfer only to stretch the whole thing out and blow the window by coming up empty handed. If thats what this is, again, well you have to say fair play. The fans must be stupid enough to buy it over and over again. I initially laughed when I heard we were supposedly after Aubameyang. "Not that old trick, again!", was my thought. But I eventually got sucked in as the player agreed terms and it started to seem possible, with the only barrier being the price. But I thought, fuck it, they are already quids in form selling players, they have a ton of cash in the bank, they need to turn the fans around and surely they can't pass up a top player like this when he's on the market and financially within reach. My nagging doubt was why nobody else was in for the player. How come, the Chavs who are looking for a striker, didn't dive in? How come the gypos weren't interested after missing out on Alexis? What about the major European clubs, were none of them interested? So I was still suspicious. But the deal seemed possible nonetheless.
Now I realise I have been conned again, by what is undoubtedly the best team of con artists in the business. Led by the con master general himself, Arsene Wenger.
They don't give a fuck about this club beyond what they can personally get out of it. And they couldn't give a flying fuck if the prestige of this club falls into the shitter, because they don't care what anybody outside their little empire thinks, least of all the fans.
It's horrendous to try to imagine how much more damage this guy Wenger can do if he refuses to step aside at the end of this failed season. And, like others, I can picture that day next season when we hear the first mutterings that Wenger may stay on and sign another contract. That I can believe with no trouble at all.
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Clearly like most of us you are increasingly apathetic and I get that, but you're also just being obtuse.
I will settle for baby steps and go from seeing 5 good games a season to 10 good games a season and actually watch a world class forward turn out for us week in week out.
I'm not that invested in the move either. Seen enough fuck ups around here to know not to get my hopes up. But seeing how this move has progressed, I can't help but question the overall strategy. If they don't want to spend that much on a 28 year old world class striker, I don't know why they're still sitting at the table trying to negotiate. They should have fucked off ages ago and moved on to another target. We don't need a striker. We just bought Lacazette. To me, being linked with a World Class striker like Aubameyang is a statement of intent since we've just lost Sanchez. His age shouldn't be relevant and they should have known they he'd be an expensive purchase. It looks like the sort of signing to address a problem we have now and not one for the future. If they wanted a younger player and something for the future, why walk away from the Malcom deal? How comes Spurs are being linked with Lucas Moura instead of us? What about Draxler or some other young winger because that's what we actually need. A winger.
None of it makes sense. We'll see what happens on deadline day but this looks like the same old shit. No plan or strategy. It was to see us even linked with Aubameyang in the first place but I assumed we just wanted a big name statement signing.
I think at this stage Ivan is still going to Wenger and discussing prices etc because Sanllehi hasn't started yet.
Ivan will be liaising with Sanllehi moving forward. I would have absolutely loved him to have been in place for this transfer window and seen how the Aubergine deal would have transpired.
But why they hell aren't they in place? And what are they doing in Germany if they haven't started work yet? This has been bizarre since the announcement, almost as if they have been deliberately hired outside the transfer window so they don't step on a certain goat's territory this one last time.
I never did understand it. Hired months ago but starting after the action. We can't even get basic hires right at this place.
Has Wenger been sacked yet? When the fuck is he going to be sacked?
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