In most cases, it isn't warranted when a manager is fairly new etc, ie when the Chavs did it to Scolari - but in our case, it is most certainly warranted.Originally Posted by Goonermerree
The players want a change and they aren't being offered up anything new in terms of coaching or tactics so why wouldn't they have had enough?
I also think it is true for what it's worth. You only have to look at the number of players who have been available for transfer over the last 18 months, something isn't right in the dressing room that is for certain.
I remember Oxlade liking a Wenger out tweet last year too and he would have been one of the longer serving players at the time. Speaking of Ox, I see he's enjoying his football again and looking like a decent player. Shock, horror.
The players are waging a PR war against Wenger trying to diminish their own responsibility
Even when Koscielny said yesterday we must share the blame, it’s a way of making sure he and his team mates aren’t seen as pricks.
I’m not buying that bill of goods
Wenger is a non manager has no idea what he’s doing, but is he suddenly worse than he was two years ago?
No the new lows we are hitting are a mixture of his ineptitude and the players downing tools
Wenger has to go now, but there has to be a reckoning with these cunts who call themselves professionals
We need the likes of Vieira, Henry, Keown to come in just as a one off and tell these players exactly what they think of them. What it means to play for this football club
Last edited by HCZ; 05-03-2018 at 10:36 AM.
I don't see any effort from them on the pitch. They're paid a fortune, the fans pay a lot of money to watch them. They should do their job.
I bet Ramsey is leading this revolt. His contract expires next year and he's essentially a senior player now.
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I bet Ramsey is leading this revolt. His contract expires next year and he's essentially a senior player now.
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Ramsey has no personality and he loves Wenger
I'm surprised they want Wenger gone if it's true, they are on easy street under Wenger.
The modern footballer. Zero loyalty. Zero respect. Half the talent. Rewards before achievements.
That's the easy life they'll be looking to protect. So if the time has come to throw Wenger under a bus so the gravy train can keep on rolling along, that's what they'll do. It's not a problem unique to Arsenal. Look at that cock Toure who popped up to justify a slice of his ridiculous contract. Wasn't he a slave not so long ago? The idiot Neymar? It's hard to spot the professional these days.
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..the question is whether they are doing a Chelsea and playing to get the change that is both needed and inevitable. It almost seems that way!
At other clubs we have seen players accused of 'downing tools' to get the manager sacked. I don't think that this necessarily is the case at Arsenal, but it is not that much of a leap of faith to conclude that our players see a dead man walking and therefore are no longer playing for the manager.
Philiippe Auclair in the Arsecast last week made some interesting points about how players can play the system by looking like they are making runs etc and having healthy match stats, but in fact using runs to hide from the ball instead of making a difference to the game. This way they look good on paper for an incoming manager, while in reality letting a failing manager down. Could this be the reason why Wenger continues to 'big up' players that have given up on him?
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
Ramsey was confirmed at the mole.
Ramsey has no personality and he loves Wenger
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