Wenger's future, possible extension and possible... departure?

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You're an idiot because you clearly have no clue about what happened during Tuchel's spell at Dortmund or his career and yet are making bold pronouncements on here calling Tuchel a loser, amateur, failure etc etc because he didn't win the treble during his time there. That's the simplicity of your intellectual thought process to this - infantile.

I note you've conveniently avoided rebutting the points I made about the reason why he was sacked at Dortmund - I guess you weren't aware of them. At least I hope you'll now stop using that to put him down.


And yes it does. Even the best managers have a bad game here and there - it was a shocker conceding three goals in the manner they did after steam rollering Liverpool in the first half and seemingly having the tie in the bag. I've already admitted he's a bit more defensively naive compared to a Simeone or an Allegri but the attacking football he plays is miles better which more than compensates for it. And that's the format that's current succeeding in the PL with Pep and Klopp and the style we should hope to emulate.


According to Raphael Honigstein on TF pod the Bayern top brass had been frantically trying to persuade him to reverse his mind the past few days but he's already signed a deal with a top foreign club that he's going to honour. Though unlike Kicker, RH thinks it's probably either Chelsea or PSG and not us.

He's good enough for Bayern and probably Chelsea or PSG but no according to internet poster Zimmerman on GW he's not good enough for The Arsenal.

We deserve four more years of Wenger with thinking like this. We let the likes of Pep & Klopp slip away when they were available & gettable because the board & some fans were too afraid of taking a chance on a promising manager and we're about to do same thing if Tuchel does go elsewhere. Infuriating.

Thing is I don't care, had he been successful you can bet your bottom dollar he wouldn't have got the sack, they sacked him for their own reasons and clearly didn't value him enough not to, because as I said before he's totally unproven, no record of success and inherited an already top team from Klopp, a team who had largely down very well in the CL.

As for your point about beng close to Bayern, 10 and 18 points isn't close in my book, close would be within a few points maybe but not 10 or 18 and his current record if very relevant, it's all we have to judge him by therefore what he's achieved is important and right now it's not impressive at all.

As for other clubs wanting him, so what, I couldn't care less, as PNG said they have infinite resources and mickey mouse could win the league with them.

I've noticed how some people get hold of the names of some unproven nobodies (whether it be players or managers) and then become somewhat fixated on the fact they are the best thing since sliced bread, remember people going nuts over Isaksson and he proved rubbish, howabout we let someone prove themselves and have some success before we start to think they're a gift from the gods, remember Moyes, he was flavour of the day once upon the time and then employed by Man U, we all know what happened next.

As for the football, Dortmund played amazing football before he arrived under Kloppp (much like Liverpool do) so let's not go overboard, Klopp built Dortmund, getting them to CL finals and challenging Bayern, Tuchel just took over an already well established club with top players.

The guy is flavour of the day, who knows we're he'll be in a few years, as for comparisons to Pep etc, not even close, those managers have actually had success this is entirely different.