Wenger's future, possible extension and possible... departure?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Allegri also won the league with Milan besides Juve and has taken Juve to the CL final twice. His record in Europe shows that he's not just a manager that's dominant in a one sided league. Also, Serie A has more potential for upsets compared to the Bundesliga. I'd argue Juve's resurgence as a force in Europe comes back to smart managerial appointments with Conte and Allegeri. Inter were dominating for ages until Jose left and Allegeri won it with Milan.

If I had said a massive club like Barca or Bayern were interested in Allegeri as if that somehow validates why I think we should go for him, that would be having it both ways. Tuchel has a very short record with Dortmund. It's not enough for me to know where he's flavour of the month or the real deal. If Brendan Rodgers were linked with Bayern or PSG, would that suddenly make him a better manager?

Doesn't the fact that he fell out so quickly with staff and players concern you? You still haven't answered that one. For Dortmund to let him go so quickly says a lot. Again, not saying he is shit, just saying it's a big risk.

I'd argue that Juve's successes has been due to their fantastic transfer policy - getting in Pogba for free and selling him for 89 million, using that money to buy Higuain, getting in the likes of Khedira & Matuidi cheaply etc .... but I don't really want to get into a protracted debate about that. Allegri is a fantastic manager and unlike Zim I don't feel the need to diss him because I also like someone else (Tuchel).

That's a farfetched hypothetical though because there's no way that Brendan Rodgers would be credibly linked to Barca or PSG. If he was then I'd be prepared to rethink my opinion of him.

A bit but I don't think it's a major concern, at least not to the extent of passing over him if he's available. Bear in mind one of the reasons he fell out with the Dortmund management team is because they sold THREE of his best players despite getting assurances that they wouldn't - this is less likely to happen to us as we're much richer than Dortmund and less susceptible to that these days.

Furthermore as we're all know he'll get a much more freedom here to do what he wants because of our absentee owner & chairman, plus I do think he's probably learnt some lessons from his time at Dortmund. At any rate, if we get three or four excellent seasons out of him before it goes tits up then I'd be happy - no one's going to do a Wenger/Ferguson anymore.

I've heard Tuchel has ruled out a move to Arseanl anyway. If the move were still on, for me, he'd fit in to the 2nd tier of managers we've been linked with.

3rd Teir
Henry
Arteta

2nd Teir
Brendan Rodgers
Joachim Low
Tuchel

1st
Jardim
Luis Enrique
Ancelotti
Allegri


3rd tier are those taking on their first job and that's a risk I'd want to avoid.

2nd tier - managers with serious question marks against their record. Rodgers is the lowest of the 2nd tier for obvious reasons. He has a league title and cups with Celtic but would have to do a lot better in Europe to take him seriously. Low has no recent club experience despite being a WC winner. Managing a club team is a different beast. I'd rate Tuchel over him just because I think Low would have a steep learning curve.

1st teir

League winners. Jardim is the less accomplished but what he has done with Monaco is remarkable. Was close to ranking him ahead of Luis Enrique because Barca are Barca... but you get the idea. Simeone would be in this bracket but we have no chance of getting him.

Why do you rate Ancelotti so highly? His league performances in competitive leagues is almost as bad as Wenger's. And by all accounts his management style is exactly like Wenger's .... act the father figure, be the guy who puts an arms around the shoulder and let the players work it out on the pitch, i.e. hands off. The last thing we need right now.


Tier 0 - Simeone

Tier 1 - Tuchel, Jardim, Allegri

Tier 2 - Luis Enrique, Hasenhüttl, Sarri, Conte, Tedesco, Low

Tier 3 - Henry, Arteta, Vieira (not the poster)