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    Quote Originally Posted by Power n Glory View Post
    But who was Salah before he signed for Liverpool? If you heard it was a choice between Salah and Mkhitaryan, Firminho and Aubameyang, we'd all have chosen the Dortmund boys without question.

    Wijnaldum and Milner wouldn't have been on many people's wish list either. I have no idea who those fullbacks are either.

    It comes back to good coaching and I hope Emery can pull something out of this team or discover new gems because the players Liverpool and Spuds currently have weren't on the top of the transfer shopping list but they've now developed into must have players.
    Salah's emergence at Liverpool has been very impressive and very surprising...but....he was putting in very good performances and posting decent enough numbers in Italy prior to his move to Liverpool.

    Obviously I didn't expect him to develop into a World Class player so quickly but he came to Liverpool off the back of 2 very good seasons at Roma, admittedly scoring 15 goals each season which is nowhere near his scoring ratio at Liverpool.

    I hear you, I would have preferred our boys...they are developed and ready made stars so to speak but until they post numbers equivalent to those mentioned Liverpool players then we have an inferior attack.

    Yeah I agree on Wijnaldum and Milner, they are depth players for Liverpool really even though they have been first choice so far this season. I have no doubts that Fabinho and Henderson will eventually replace them in their preferred starting line up. They still have OX too assuming he comes back to the same level as last season, Liverpool have quality options in Midfield IMO.

    I do agree with your point though, it's down to us to develop and unearth gems...or at least polish up potential to a high level like Liverpool and Spuds have done.

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    If I'm honest, it's a shame we didn't get that young guy from PSG as well in the summer, might have been another to get excited about, right now we've got Guendouzi and Mavropanos (who doesn't seem to be anywhere near playing), could have used a few more potential stars to try out as our squad is largely Wenger players, out of our summer signings Lichsteiner (we he got a sub appearance) and Leno don't feature at all and Torreira is just a sub with Xhaka being preferred, think we needed a bit more than that because this Wenger squad was a load of rubbish, look how they did last season.

    If it had been me, I'd have been quick to ditch half of these Wenger players out of the team, did Emery not know anything about Arsenal before he arrived, even though we played PSG a few times whilst he was manager? I was hoping to see more lineup changes then I've seen from Emery so far, at the moment it just looks largely like a Wenger team, I really wanted to see us move away from that as quickly as possible with an injection if new blood, think the reason we're so stale so far is that most of these guys have no real desire to succeed, they've been use to the easy life and it shows, not sure you can change that weak mentality either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    If I'm honest, it's a shame we didn't get that young guy from PSG as well in the summer, might have been another to get excited about, right now we've got Guendouzi and Mavropanos (who doesn't seem to be anywhere near playing), could have used a few more potential stars to try out as our squad is largely Wenger players, out of our summer signings Lichsteiner (we he got a sub appearance) and Leno don't feature at all and Torreira is just a sub with Xhaka being preferred, think we needed a bit more than that because this Wenger squad was a load of rubbish, look how they did last season.

    If it had been me, I'd have been quick to ditch half of these Wenger players out of the team, did Emery not know anything about Arsenal before he arrived, even though we played PSG a few times whilst he was manager? I was hoping to see more lineup changes then I've seen from Emery so far, at the moment it just looks largely like a Wenger team, I really wanted to see us move away from that as quickly as possible with an injection if new blood, think the reason we're so stale so far is that most of these guys have no real desire to succeed, they've been use to the easy life and it shows, not sure you can change that weak mentality either.
    I personally am prepared to give Emery until the new year with this current set of players, by then we will get an idea of what does and doesn't work.

    I personally think he's not overly impressed with a lot of the senior players here, Ramsey, Xhaka and Ozil have been either dropped or subbed quite early on in games so he certainly doesn't seem to favour any of these guys.

    I think making all the changes in the summer would have been a step too far but I certainly don't want him persisting with any of these aforementioned players if they are not delivering.

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    I have been impressed with Klopp, because clearly has a strong sense of player profile. Firminho, Salah and Mane were not the stand out names when he signed them but he identified certain skills and brought in those players accordingly. Very impressive stuff and look what they have become.

    Our central defence is behind the others (though it is clearly a case of a lacking of coaching) in the top 6 but we otherwise are a match for the rest....and I also think a whole lot is down to coaching.

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    I agree, with so much money around now having a top coach is pretty much the difference maker.

    Our team is structurally a mess because of the previous regime. Emery will need a lot of time to get his ideas drilled into the heads of the players but the players also probably need time themselves to adapt to a change in culture.

    I've always said this season is a bit of a free hit as long as we see some signs of improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I agree, with so much money around now having a top coach is pretty much the difference maker.

    Our team is structurally a mess because of the previous regime. Emery will need a lot of time to get his ideas drilled into the heads of the players but the players also probably need time themselves to adapt to a change in culture.

    I've always said this season is a bit of a free hit as long as we see some signs of improvement.
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