On one hand I think Liverpool will tell us little. We know we aren't title contenders and we know we are much worse than Liverpool.

On the other hand it will tell us how much we've progressed since the first two games of the season. I'm kind of just looking forward to a proper contest and an enjoyable match.

The defence is slowly improving though and I do think we should stop seeing Holding as a kid. He's Torreira's age at 23 (so perhaps slightly older) and is not kid anymore. Frankly he should be taking Mustafi's position in the team and is more than old enough to be included if he is playing well enough....and he is.