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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post

    Yes, its debateable that we might not have the purse of Man City or any of our top 6 rivals but what does that have to do with constructing a good defence, managing your best players (Ozil) or making sure a player like Xhaka (who has done this over and over again) is not in a position to cost us the game?
    Yes, was going to mention Ozil, we need him playing to provide creativity, which he does when he plays, Emery's too busy trying to show him who's boss to realise he needs to be in the f**king team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Yes, was going to mention Ozil, we need him playing to provide creativity, which he does when he plays, Emery's too busy trying to show him who's boss to realise he needs to be in the f**king team
    Ozil can do one. Flimsy little fraud who turns up once every few matches. Take one look at his stats since he arrived and you’ll see he isn’t our creative genius at all. Sooner we see shot of him and a few others, the better. We’re performing exactly the same without him in the side as do with him in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMatthews View Post
    Ozil can do one. Flimsy little fraud who turns up once every few matches. Take one look at his stats since he arrived and you’ll see he isn’t our creative genius at all. Sooner we see shot of him and a few others, the better. We’re performing exactly the same without him in the side as do with him in it.
    The last time he played he helped create two goals, he links up well with laca and auba and we've not got better options - if we can't buy anyone we need to make the most of what we have, whether some people like it or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    The last time he played he helped create two goals, he links up well with laca and auba and we've not got better options - if we can't buy anyone we need to make the most of what we have, whether some people like it or not
    We’ve tried for years to make the most of what we have with Ozil, and even under a different manager the results were the same. Which tells you the problem lies with the player, rather than the management of him. We’re scoring just as much without him, and he hasn’t been missed upfront. He turns up when he wants and is generally a waste of space.

    Understandably, people are desperately looking for answers. But Ozil ain’t it.

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    I'm no Ozil fan but I think even at his worst he is still capable of producing something out of nothing, in a way Iwobi and Mkhi simply can't. I don't understand why Ramsey is getting more minutes than Ozil when we know for near enough fact that he is leaving. I think freezing Ozil out completely is a bit of a fallacy when inferior players are being afforded game time.

    It's all a mess though. No money to spend, injuries and a coach who doesn't know his best 11 or set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I'm no Ozil fan but I think even at his worst he is still capable of producing something out of nothing, in a way Iwobi and Mkhi simply can't. I don't understand why Ramsey is getting more minutes than Ozil when we know for near enough fact that he is leaving. I think freezing Ozil out completely is a bit of a fallacy when inferior players are being afforded game time.

    It's all a mess though. No money to spend, injuries and a coach who doesn't know his best 11 or set up.
    That's what it is for me, i'm no blind Ozil fanboy but we're definitely underusing him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I'm no Ozil fan but I think even at his worst he is still capable of producing something out of nothing, in a way Iwobi and Mkhi simply can't. I don't understand why Ramsey is getting more minutes than Ozil when we know for near enough fact that he is leaving. I think freezing Ozil out completely is a bit of a fallacy when inferior players are being afforded game time.

    It's all a mess though. No money to spend, injuries and a coach who doesn't know his best 11 or set up.
    You said it all.

    Question: What logic anywhere justifies freezing out your star player and hoping he gets the message and leaves while giving inferior players more than enough opportunities to showcase their limited abilities.....

    Ah, it must be Jose Mourinho logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    You said it all.

    Question: What logic anywhere justifies freezing out your star player and hoping he gets the message and leaves while giving inferior players more than enough opportunities to showcase their limited abilities.....

    Ah, it must be Jose Mourinho logic
    Ozil isn’t our star player.

    He’s just on star player wages

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    Emery reckons he is happy with the squad he has. If he truly believes that, then he is not fit for the job. The current playing group is very poor, bar a few players. Loans won’t fix the issue, it needs major investment, which we won’t get from Stan. What does Steve Bould actually do, if he is defensive coach, then he needs to walk, as the stats are there showing our defence to be among the worst in the division. This club is not about football, it’s about lining Stan’s pockets, he’s the worst thing to happen to this club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang View Post
    Ozil isn’t our star player.

    He’s just on star player wages
    He is the player we have the world considers world class.

    I hate to bring up other teams so frequently but just a month ago most of the press and so-called football pundits in the country were siding with Jose and saying Man U's players weren't good enough in quality, in particular a recent World cup winner (forgetting Jose had performed this same trick on Chelsea players including Hazard, then they won the title the very next season!!)

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...ier-League/amp

    https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/footbal...gh_321181.html

    https://talksport.com/football/46161...liverpool/amp/

    https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/footbal...ed_315416.html



    Now look at them purring.

    I'm not saying Ozil is the answer or his abscence is the cause of our recent decline.... but Emery's inabilty to work with him or get anything out of him, despite having no close/adequate substitute for him, cannot be something we the Arsenal should overlook- it speaks volumes about the ability/limitations of our current manager.
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