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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Agreed, that run did flatter us somewhat. And I agree that the defence needs some improvement. Some of the other improvements you suggest are probably right too, but those can be done over the next few years, I don't accept we need 7-8 players replaced now to see any improvement
    I listed the players I think we need to replace and it's between 6 and 8 players, if you disagree fine but I think all those positions need replacements


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    What happened to "any manager would do better"?
    That's what was being said last season.
    They could but they have to change things, Emery should be implementing his methods, just like Klopp did, it might be hit and miss at this stage as the players don't fit in or are not good enough but he should still apply his methods, the problem right now is we're looking much like the Wenger team of old. In reality though Wenger messed it up for him as he's left him with next to nothing to spend, so making the changes are harder than they ever would have been when Wenger was in charge.

    Saying that I agree with MO if things aren't different next season he should be given the boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I listed the players I think we need to replace and it's between 6 and 8 players, if you disagree fine but I think all those positions need replacements
    I don't entirely disagree but I don't think they need immediate replacement before we see some improvement.
    If there's not much left to spend then I suggest you look at the owners, we are bringing in shitloads of money.
    Our net spend is actually quite high over the last few years, but nowhere near the likes of City and Utd

    https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-36861511.html

    And our wage bill, while high, is only 5th highest both in terms of average pay per player and overall:
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...emier-13650048
    https://www.theguardian.com/football...-guide-2016-17

    Our wages are 47% of turnover, lower as a percentage than anyone bar Spurs and Man Utd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I don't entirely disagree but I don't think they need immediate replacement before we see some improvement.
    If there's not much left to spend then I suggest you look at the owners, we are bringing in shitloads of money.
    Our net spend is actually quite high over the last few years, but nowhere near the likes of City and Utd

    https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-36861511.html

    And our wage bill, while high, is only 5th highest both in terms of average pay per player and overall:
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...emier-13650048
    https://www.theguardian.com/football...-guide-2016-17

    Our wages are 47% of turnover, lower as a percentage than anyone bar Spurs and Man Utd.
    No we don't need to replace them all immediately but the sooner the better if we're going to get challenging again.

    Our net spend is reasonable, in reality though we've waste a lot of money on the wrong players and also sold poorly and lost players for nothing who were worth a fair amount (Sanchez should have been worth 60-70 million).

    Klopp has done amazingly though, he's brought in quality whilst selling really well, meaning their net spend in 18 million and yet there they are top of the league (and in the CL final last season - his 2nd season so Emery has got to get a move on), Spurs too have worked wonders, 50 million net spend and yet they are miles ahead of us overall.

    Our setup has been terrible for years and we've done it again with Ramsey, lost out on 40-50 odd million and based on last summers' budget we could illafford to miss out on that kind of money, on top of that we have very few players in the squad who are worth anything of note, so unless we get lucky with some talented youngsters or cheap buys we're going to struggle without significant investment in the team from somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    No we don't need to replace them all immediately but the sooner the better if we're going to get challenging again.

    Our net spend is reasonable, in reality though we've waste a lot of money on the wrong players and also sold poorly and lost players for nothing who were worth a fair amount (Sanchez should have been worth 60-70 million).

    Klopp has done amazingly though, he's brought in quality whilst selling really well, meaning their net spend in 18 million and yet there they are top of the league (and in the CL final last season - his 2nd season so Emery has got to get a move on), Spurs too have worked wonders, 50 million net spend and yet they are miles ahead of us overall.

    Our setup has been terrible for years and we've done it again with Ramsey, lost out on 40-50 odd million and based on last summers' budget we could illafford to miss out on that kind of money, on top of that we have very few players in the squad who are worth anything of note, so unless we get lucky with some talented youngsters or cheap buys we're going to struggle without significant investment in the team from somewhere.


    I think we are generally just a very poorly run 'top' club. Emery really has his work cut out at this club.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    I think we are generally just a very poorly run 'top' club. Emery really has his work cut out at this club.
    I used to think we were really well run and I think back in the day we were but now, not so much.
    I pretty much agree that Wenger made some bad decisions and mismanaged certain things but the problems run much deeper than that.
    I always felt that while there were problems at board level replacing Wenger wouldn't achieve much (although I agree that needed to happen).

    https://theshortfuse.sbnation.com/20...nke-investment

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