Match Reaction QPR 1-2 Arsenal

[Letters]

Our record in 2015 has been title winning NQ. All it needs is a consistent application across an entire season and we should be capable of putting in a credible title challenge next year.

The thing is we've never quite managed it across a whole season, well, not never, but not for ages. 2008 we were pretty close but the sequence of draws when Eduardo got his injury messed it up for us. Every other season we've either gone off like a train and faded or we've started poorly and picked up. I don't know if it's the perennial injuries but we never quite seem to manage to get it together and play well enough for a whole season to seriously challenge.

[Marc Overmars]

This should have been the year of a credible title challenge. After last seasons half baked but relatively good effort, a cup win and big money spent we should have been in a position of strength.

The fact that absolutely fuck all has changed is testament to what a stagnant rut Wenger has us in.

Get rid. Then maybe there will be a buzz around Arsenal again.

[Power n Glory]

This should have been the year of a credible title challenge. After last seasons half baked but relatively good effort, a cup win and big money spent we should have been in a position of strength.

The fact that absolutely fuck all has changed is testament to what a stagnant rut Wenger has us in.

Get rid. Then maybe there will be a buzz around Arsenal again.

We had a serious chance last season. I knew Chelsea had already written their name on the title for this year. We should have capitalised on last season. So many of our rivals were in experiencing a major change whilst we looked the most stable. But we fucked it up. After seeing that shit last season, this season was predictable.

[fakeyank]

We had a serious chance last season. I knew Chelsea had already written their name on the title for this year. We should have capitalised on last season. So many of our rivals were in experiencing a major change whilst we looked the most stable. But we fucked it up. After seeing that shit last season, this season was predictable.

Last year, we were top of the league and had to buy some half decent players in Jan and have a half decent plan to not get mauled by the big teams. We just had to keep it calm and do the basic things but we didnt. I remember the AW sympathizers saying that next season (currently this season) is when we will take off. The same statement we have been hearing for the last 5 or 6 years. We will hear the same thing from the same people come the end of May.

[Letters]

I remember the AW sympathizers saying that next season (currently this season) is when we will take off. The same statement we have been hearing for the last 5 or 6 years. We will hear the same thing from the same people come the end of May.

I think literally no one said we would 'take off' but we won the FA Cup and got the most points since 2008, any manager who did that would deserve a chance to build on it. This season has been a bit of a cock up but despite such a shaky start we're still 3rd and we're in the FA Cup quarter finals. Monday will tell us something about whether this team have learnt anything from the last few years. It has the capacity to be one of these games where we either don't turn up or do that thing we often do at Old Trafford where we outplay them but get beaten. I can take us losing up there so long as we turn up and get beaten by a good performance.

I think we pretty much all agree that we need to move on from Wenger but when he does leave he'll leave us in great shape. We'll have a good squad, and be in an excellent financial position. Wenger doesn't get the big bucks to 'do nothing', he is far more than just a football coach, he's involved with all aspects of the club. Arguably too involved but you can't compare his salary to other football coaches who don't have those responsibilities. We should have done better this season but we're only 4 points off money cheats City. Wenger has his flaws but so will the next guy, he's hardly the incompetent you make out.

[Heisenberg]

The problem with deserving a chance to build on those two things is that last season, despite ending well, and then this season have played out so much like the others in the second half of Wenger's reign. There've been so many false dawns that it becomes increasingly hard to see how we can break the cycle. Winning the cup is a start, sure, because it gets the trophy less tag off our backs, but we want to be challenging for and winning the league too. All this leaves me conflicted because I'm in awe of Wenger, for what he's done for this club - even in the lean years he oversaw the Emirates shift and will leave a platform for the future that simply wasn't there when he arrived, but at the same time I think the club ought to have in mind not just longer term plans but also contemporary ideas about the post.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Our record in 2015 has been title winning NQ. All it needs is a consistent application across an entire season and we should be capable of putting in a credible title challenge next year.

As for bad performances, even the invincible team ground out 2 - 1's and 2 - 0's when needed. It wasn't always champagne swash buckling football from them. Besides, we've had moments of sublime football now like the 5 - 0 against Villa.

Also, whilst you may be correct in pointing out that the top clubs may not be as good as they once were, I do actually thing the rest of the league is a lot better and have caught up; consequentially (and I know it's a cliche) they aren't any easy games any more. And tbh, I prefer it this way instead of a league like Spain where it's basically a two horse race (too early to say if Athletico will last) and a matter of how many goals Barca and Madrid score against everyone else.

By the way any news on Chesney? Why was he dropped yesterday? Did Wenger think he was the one responsible for that white powder through his mailbox, when it was actually Zimm?

I'm not sure if I prefer it this way but you are definitely correct in my opinion. The general level is better even if we are a shadow of former sides.

[fakeyank]

Wenger has his flaws but so will the next guy, he's hardly the incompetent you make out.

He is incompetent as a football manager with the resources he has. With the continuity he has enjoyed, he should have done much better. I do agree that he will leave the club in a good position if he leaves at the end of this season. But there is no guarantee that will be the case if he keeps being stubborn and continues signing contract renewal after contract renewal.

[Power n Glory]

I think literally no one said we would 'take off' but we won the FA Cup and got the most points since 2008, any manager who did that would deserve a chance to build on it. This season has been a bit of a cock up but despite such a shaky start we're still 3rd and we're in the FA Cup quarter finals. Monday will tell us something about whether this team have learnt anything from the last few years. It has the capacity to be one of these games where we either don't turn up or do that thing we often do at Old Trafford where we outplay them but get beaten. I can take us losing up there so long as we turn up and get beaten by a good performance.

I think we pretty much all agree that we need to move on from Wenger but when he does leave he'll leave us in great shape. We'll have a good squad, and be in an excellent financial position. Wenger doesn't get the big bucks to 'do nothing', he is far more than just a football coach, he's involved with all aspects of the club. Arguably too involved but you can't compare his salary to other football coaches who don't have those responsibilities. We should have done better this season but we're only 4 points off money cheats City. Wenger has his flaws but so will the next guy, he's hardly the incompetent you make out.

I'm growing more irritated by these sort of posts and the highlighted points as the years pass. Wenger's management of the club is frustrating but this sort of post drives me up the wall. Every year you set some sort of litmus test as if there will be a pinnacle point where 'all will become clear' after certain period or match. Monday's game won't tell us shit. We could easily beat Utd and lose to a lesser team in the next round or final. Are you that damn slow that you need one more game or example to see if this team has learnt anything? Jeez! As if you haven't had numerous examples, this season, last or any season since being at the Emirates.

That quote you used from Fakeyank has nothing to do with Wenger being incompetent or even mentions his salary. It's about posters like yourself that keep saying 'jam tomorrow' and kicking the can further down the road. Monday's game won't make a difference. We did a job on City and then fucked up against Spurs and Monaco. This team will always be inconsistent under Wenger and no single performance can prove he has his mojo back. That time has gone and I'm beyond the point of trying to measure where this team is at. Someone said something similar after the City game some weeks back. Something about the City game being great but the Spurs test will really show where we are as a team. So what did the Spurs game show? How did we not turn up for that game?

[Letters]

Monday's game is exactly the sort of game which people on here bemoan (with some justification) that we 'never' win. So I do see a win in this one would be significant.
Every team is inconsistent sometimes, that's not a valid criticism of any manager or team.
FY mentions his salary in every post via his signature and clearly regards him as incompetent which is balls - you don't finish top 4 every year with an incompetent manager, how many other managers have managed that with any consistency?

We need to move on from Wenger to get out of the endless Groundhog Day, but there seems to be a feeling that Wenger is such an incompetent buffoon that the next manager will clearly be better and we'll be sweeping all before us when he leaves. I think that's far too simplistic, while the money cheats around we'll always face an uphill battle to win the title and the next bloke will have other flaws. Some of the names bandied round to replace Wenger have not done well consistently. And if we do better after Wenger goes then it will be in no small part because of the squad and financial shape Wenger leaves us in. A bit of credit where it's due and respect for that wouldn't go amiss.