Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Wait for it.
He'll be on here in a flash.
Wait for it.
He'll be on here in a flash.
Do you mean me?
I continue to be amused by people who spent years pretending Wenger was so bad that literally anyone would do better now 2 managers and 2 seasons after Wenger left, when we are clearly worse than we were in even Wenger's last and worst season, pretending that it's still Wenger's fault.
Fact is last season we were close to top 4 and we got to the Europa League final. That's what the squad left us with was able to do. Not sparkling but not mid-table and certainly something to build on. This season it has all gone to shit, I don't know if Arteta is the man to sort it out. To think that last night's debacle means he definitely isn't is as foolish as to think that the win at the weekend means he is. But he deserves some time to have a chance to.
Fucking hell Arsene give it up ?Do you mean me?
I continue to be amused by people who spent years pretending Wenger was so bad that literally anyone would do better now 2 managers and 2 seasons after Wenger left, when we are clearly worse than we were in even Wenger's last and worst season, pretending that it's still Wenger's fault.
Fact is last season we were close to top 4 and we got to the Europa League final. That's what the squad left us with was able to do. Not sparkling but not mid-table and certainly something to build on. This season it has all gone to shit, I don't know if Arteta is the man to sort it out. To think that last night's debacle means he definitely isn't is as foolish as to think that the win at the weekend means he is. But he deserves some time to have a chance to.
Go back to your old peoples home with your cocoa and a blanket over your knees.
As always, a well thought out argument
I was going to delete that as it really adds nothing to the discussion but I think I'll leave it as it shows how stupid you are and that you actually have no response.
What have I told you before about name calling ?As always, a well thought out argument
I was going to delete that as it really adds nothing to the discussion but I think I'll leave it as it shows how stupid you are and that you actually have no response.
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Let me be stupid please.
I wouldn't know how to stop you
Now shall we both behave now?
I am behaving, you're just very touchy and easy to wind up.I wouldn't know how to stop you
Now shall we both behave now?
Name calling is for children.
Wenger took us backwards. That’s a fact. He took us from a position of relative strength, finishing 2nd to Leicester that season which was a sackable offence in itself.Do you mean me?
I continue to be amused by people who spent years pretending Wenger was so bad that literally anyone would do better now 2 managers and 2 seasons after Wenger left, when we are clearly worse than we were in even Wenger's last and worst season, pretending that it's still Wenger's fault.
Fact is last season we were close to top 4 and we got to the Europa League final. That's what the squad left us with was able to do. Not sparkling but not mid-table and certainly something to build on. This season it has all gone to shit, I don't know if Arteta is the man to sort it out. To think that last night's debacle means he definitely isn't is as foolish as to think that the win at the weekend means he is. But he deserves some time to have a chance to.
He failed to sufficiently strengthen the squad after that.
That aside, despite our horrendous collapse at the end of last season and our embarrassing showing in the Europa Cup Final, Emery outperformed Wenger’s last season. Yes he messed up this season and yes he was rightly sacked, but I certainly don’t long for Wenger. He refused to strengthen the team / squad amongst a number of other issues!
I don't disagree with any of that and I was cautiously optimistic after Emery's first season, seemed liked a fairly reasonable starting point to build on. There was some improvement from the previous one. But this year it's all gone to shit and you can't sensibly blame the dude who was 2 managers ago and hasn't been manager for 2 years.
Well, apparently you can, but you shouldn't.
But anyway, Arteta can clearly see where the problems are. Whether he can do anything about them...well, we'll have to see.
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