so why wouldn't someone buy Arsenal to do that?Originally Posted by IBK
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so why wouldn't someone buy Arsenal to do that?
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...well Chelsea and Citeh weren't exactly the epitome of success when they were taken over by ther current owners. Arsenal actually tick all the boxes. Prestigious city; popular worldwide (more so than Citeh or Chelsea); great history and tradition. In fact the only real stubling block is that we are too expensive because of that.so why wouldn't someone buy Arsenal to do that?
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It's such an irony that at this stage many fans would prefer to be an oligarch/state plaything than continue under our current ownership
Its a further irony that although we are a commercial investment, our invesor owner has no apparent interest in the team being a success.
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IKR, just joking, I agree we're a very good investment
tbh it chills me when i hear people say the Kroekes never sell any of their businesses - while there's always a first time, it makes me feel like we're really doomed...
i know you keep saying we have to hope they invest a bit more and get us on an upward curve, plus we have to hope Arteta's capable of learning fast, but he strikes me as stubborn and not the quickest to change his behaviour
Oh I agree that the Kroenkes seem to be stubborn not to mention detached and uncommunicative. And I agree that the prospect of total stagnation under theur disinterested stewardship is a fightening prospect. In a strange way, it would be better if we had a poorer owner more dependent on our club succeeding.
Where I take issue is with the often repeated accusation that Arsenal does not spend money on players. It does. It also loses a lot of money on transfer fees and wages because of unwise business dealings. It would actually be good to have greater financial scrutiny at the club - as this might curb some of the excesses. This is an obvious business imperative. The worry at Arsenal is the complete lack of any apparent business oversight by an investor whose only desire is to sit on an apprecating asset.
There will come a point where our stock has fallen so low that the value of Kroenke's asset is significantly affected. If it takes this to alter the current status quo it will be a disaster because we will be screwed for years while the rest of the game moves on.
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I wonder. Do any of us know the structure and strength of the club's overseas marketing efforts, especially in Asia? Are these fans interested primarily in the results or the brand, the fashion, the names of the past?
I don't know. It could be there are many years of inertia ahead where vast foreign marketplaces can be milked and the domestic fans (legacy fans I think they call us) can be ignored or even phased out.
I wonder, does the football that happens on the pitch even matter that much anymore? Just one mediocre signing from China could be pretty lucrative for the likes of Kronke, though entirely useless for the football ambition of the club and the fans.
It would be interesting to find any research out there that details at least some of the plans the club has for exploiting marketplaces beyond London.
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yes you're right and i wasn't trying to imply otherwise though i can see it might have looked that way.
i say the same as you but others on here claim none of it is the Kroenkes money
either way i was saying they need to invest further although also we do need to sell a whole bunch of players:
Xhaka
Auba
Laca
Kola
AMN
Willian
Nketiah
Nelson (i say that slighly reluctantly but given Arteta won't play him it's for the best)
Guendouzi (which i still think is a shame)
Torreira
Bellerin
and probably a whole load more i can't remember right now...
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