Klopp has left Dortmund.
Klopp has left Dortmund.
NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.
33 points in 28 games. 6 points above the relegation zone.
And people wanted him to replace Wenger
Next City manager I reckon.
Yeah, I read that Man City need a stop-gap till they go after Pep next season.Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
The utterly obnoxious spokespig for the gypos, Martin Samuel, has some views on the possibility of Pep.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-s-budget.html
If the poor old gypos only finish 5th he's been paid to say the evil FFP that applies to all clubs will unfairly apply to the gypos. I think this is his 5th lament on FFP and the imaginary agenda against the gypos in the past month. He must be getting paid overtime.
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Definitely.33 points in 28 games. 6 points above the relegation zone.
And people wanted him to replace Wenger
If Wenger cares about the club as much as he says, then time to step down and hand the reigns to someone who can grow the club on the pitch now.
And that person is Klopp is it?
Wenger's teams were getting hammered too when we were a selling club. It's only since we've started retaining our best players that we're seeing acceptable results. Sell Alexis, Ozil and Santi from under Wenger and see what happens.
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Except our "hammering" was struggling to finish in the top four.
Their "hammering" was flirting with relegation and finishing (most likely) distinctly mid table in a less competitive and intense league.
Really, Klopp isn't a better manager than Wenger.
Didn't say he was, what I'm pointing out is there's more to management and performance than "what have you done for me lately" - unless you are a chav or a gypo in which case that's all that counts with their fans mistaking it for a winning mentality. It must have been pretty depressing in that Dortmund dressing room a couple of seasons back when the high of competing at the top turned to a realisation Dortmund, like every other club in Germany, is a feeder for Bayern. Everyone's level probably dropped, including the managers. This isn't an excuse, they all get paid well, it's just some depth to a developing and shallow argument that somehow Klopp is a bad manager overnight. There will be countless other factors on top.
Pellegrini isn't a bad manager either. He's just learning a painful lesson about managing mercenaries.
Wenger isn't a bad manager. But he's not a winner either. Not as a fan would define the term winning, at least. Wenger will always keep the club up there near the top. He's the safest pair of hands in world management. In a bank manager, insurance broker sort of way though. We don't want a casino player but we need somebody with more adventure if we ever want to hit the summit again. That could be Klopp, certainly it could. But it's probably not Klopp if we want to win back to back titles or stay at the very top for the better part of a decade. I'm not sure there's any manager out there who can achieve that now, what with all the negative developments in football.
If we can hang on to our squad and add a couple of quality additions then even Wenger might stumble into a title. It's a difficult situation to call. The club owners don't place football as the top priority. That's a significant contribution to Wenger's attitude I would think.
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