When will Arteta be sacked by

[selassie]

Top 4 is over. We are fighting for Europa place now.

[Chippy]

Top 4 is over. We are fighting for Europa place now.

Don't care.

[I am invisible]

Paid the price for such a ridiculously thin squad and no rotation. Options are non-existent outside the first 11.

It’s the lack of rotation that’s killed us. The squad might be thin, but I don’t think that’s the issue here - there’s options there that Arteta simply doesn’t trust or use, and he can’t afford that.

For all the good work he’s doing in terms of fundamental coaching, implementing football identity and overhauling the culture at the club, Arteta clearly still has a lot to learn about game and player management - you can’t just run the same XI into the ground like that and expect them to last 10 months. He has to get better at working with sub-optimal options. Some of these guys might have been ready to help if we’d invested in them throughout the season, but now we’ve backed ourselves into a corner where none of them look ready and would probably take most of our remaining games to rediscover their rhythm and form.

I keep trying to remind myself that he’s basically the equivalent of a player like Saka or Martinelli in terms of his managerial experience and development - that his progress won’t be perfectly linear and that this is how you learn - but it does feel like he goes out of his way to learn all his lessons the hard way at times! Whether he’d ever admit it or not, I think he needs a more senior figure at the club who’s opinion he respects - someone who he can turn to for advice when he needs it and someone who isn’t afraid to offer advice, even if it hasn’t been sought. Again, his team are doing a lot of good things, but they do feel like a bunch of yes men.

[Mac76]

Totally agree re failure to rotate and just also his lack of trust in all but a very few players

I guess it hasn't helped that we exited all the cups early and had no European games either, so less chance for the fringe players to play lesser teams, but that being the case he needed to give more players a runout more regularly in the PL, as you say, and rest the first-teamers more

[selassie]

It’s the lack of rotation that’s killed us. The squad might be thin, but I don’t think that’s the issue here - there’s options there that Arteta simply doesn’t trust or use, and he can’t afford that.

For all the good work he’s doing in terms of fundamental coaching, implementing football identity and overhauling the culture at the club, Arteta clearly still has a lot to learn about game and player management - you can’t just run the same XI into the ground like that and expect them to last 10 months. He has to get better at working with sub-optimal options. Some of these guys might have been ready to help if we’d invested in them throughout the season, but now we’ve backed ourselves into a corner where none of them look ready and would probably take most of our remaining games to rediscover their rhythm and form.

I keep trying to remind myself that he’s basically the equivalent of a player like Saka or Martinelli in terms of his managerial experience and development - that his progress won’t be perfectly linear and that this is how you learn - but it does feel like he goes out of his way to learn all his lessons the hard way at times! Whether he’d ever admit it or not, I think he needs a more senior figure at the club who’s opinion he respects - someone who he can turn to for advice when he needs it and someone who isn’t afraid to offer advice, even if it hasn’t been sought. Again, his team are doing a lot of good things, but they do feel like a bunch of yes men.

Totally agree.

[Globalgunner]

Can someone explain to me why we are a nursery for a juvenile manager. Was that the premise when he was appointed?. If so, when does he kick on?. Next season, 5 years. Id like to know so I can lower my expectations next season, and the next and maybe the next after that?

[Chippy]

Can someone explain to me why we are a nursery for a juvenile manager. Was that the premise when he was appointed?. If so, when does he kick on?. Next season, 5 years. Id like to know so I can lower my expectations next season, and the next and maybe the next after that?

Just lower your expectations today, then there is no disappointment

[Globalgunner]

Just lower your expectations today, then there is no disappointment

You are too kind good sir. I'll come back when we are good again

[Letters]

Can someone explain to me why we are a nursery for a juvenile manager.

Always felt like a punt. He has no pedigree but he worked under Pep, talks a good game and he did win us the FA Cup in his first season. This season at times it has felt like there has been some progress. The Collapse ™ is disappointing although not super surprising. The lack of a top striker and the thinness of the squad always felt likely to cost us. Of late we have been getting away with it and I’d started to believe we might get away with it. But it seems not.
The question is to we believe that there has been some progress and give Arteta a chance to continue that or do we look elsewhere. I’m still in the former camp for now but if we really properly collapse in to mid table, which is certainly possible now, then I might take a different view.

[Marc Overmars]

It’s the lack of rotation that’s killed us. The squad might be thin, but I don’t think that’s the issue here - there’s options there that Arteta simply doesn’t trust or use, and he can’t afford that.

For all the good work he’s doing in terms of fundamental coaching, implementing football identity and overhauling the culture at the club, Arteta clearly still has a lot to learn about game and player management - you can’t just run the same XI into the ground like that and expect them to last 10 months. He has to get better at working with sub-optimal options. Some of these guys might have been ready to help if we’d invested in them throughout the season, but now we’ve backed ourselves into a corner where none of them look ready and would probably take most of our remaining games to rediscover their rhythm and form.

I keep trying to remind myself that he’s basically the equivalent of a player like Saka or Martinelli in terms of his managerial experience and development - that his progress won’t be perfectly linear and that this is how you learn - but it does feel like he goes out of his way to learn all his lessons the hard way at times! Whether he’d ever admit it or not, I think he needs a more senior figure at the club who’s opinion he respects - someone who he can turn to for advice when he needs it and someone who isn’t afraid to offer advice, even if it hasn’t been sought. Again, his team are doing a lot of good things, but they do feel like a bunch of yes men.

This is the downside to having no European football or cup runs. Squad players aren’t given the opportunity to bed in and develop. Playing every 7-10 days gives ample recovery time so there hasn’t really been a need to rotate.