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    Don’t know why United don’t just let Ronaldo go, they’d be much better off without him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Don’t know why United don’t just let Ronaldo go, they’d be much better off without him.
    You think? I mean, they were a hilarious car crash but pretty sure they did a lot better when he played than when he didn't.
    Obviously he's old in footballer terms so they need to replace him anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Don’t know why United don’t just let Ronaldo go, they’d be much better off without him.
    They probably would if they could - I get the feeling they're stuck where we were, trying to find a buyer who is willing to cover his wages. Tough spot for them - they won't want to see him go to a PL rival, but who else is going to be able to afford them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    You think? I mean, they were a hilarious car crash but pretty sure they did a lot better when he played than when he didn't.
    Obviously he's old in footballer terms so they need to replace him anyway.
    Yes and no. He forces the team to play in a way that makes him look great, but stops them from really adopting modern standards (not to mention it sends out a pretty terrible message to the rest of the group when your highest-paid, most-respected player just does what he wants and gets away with it - sets the tone for some pretty poor behaviour and standards). That's the gist I get from talking to a couple of united-supporting friends, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    Yes and no. He forces the team to play in a way that makes him look great, but stops them from really adopting modern standards (not to mention it sends out a pretty terrible message to the rest of the group when your highest-paid, most-respected player just does what he wants and gets away with it - sets the tone for some pretty poor behaviour and standards). That's the gist I get from talking to a couple of united-supporting friends, anyway.
    depends what you mean by "just does what he wants and gets away with it " - isn't he reputed to be the first on the training ground, last to leave, leads by example etc etc?

    yes he's a prancing peacock and a terrible diver etc but i'm not sure he's such a bad example otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    depends what you mean by "just does what he wants and gets away with it " - isn't he reputed to be the first on the training ground, last to leave, leads by example etc etc?

    yes he's a prancing peacock and a terrible diver etc but i'm not sure he's such a bad example otherwise
    I mean he doesn't want anything to do with pressing from the front, which is how both his current and previous coach want/ed to play, and he mostly wants to lurk around the area pumping his own goal tally. I'm sure he trains harder than anyone, and is more ruthlessly focussed than anyone, but he's not doing what his coaches want.

    Ronaldo might be legendary enough to get away with that, but the problem they is they have a lot of other overpaid players there who think a bit too much of themselves, and are nowhere near his level, who then think that they shouldn't have to press or run around either. And then the younger players see that and they start to think that's the way to behave. They're basicaaly us from 2-3 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    I mean he doesn't want anything to do with pressing from the front, which is how both his current and previous coach want/ed to play, and he mostly wants to lurk around the area pumping his own goal tally. I'm sure he trains harder than anyone, and is more ruthlessly focussed than anyone, but he's not doing what his coaches want.

    Ronaldo might be legendary enough to get away with that
    i dunno about that, i recall he wasn't started a few times last season, presumably as a reasult of the coach reminding him who was boss and that everyone has to play the right role

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    https://www.arsenal.com/news/nuno-ta...marseille-loan

    Tavares to Marseille confirmed, on loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    https://www.arsenal.com/news/nuno-ta...marseille-loan

    Tavares to Marseille confirmed, on loan.
    I hope he does well, and develops there. Whether we then sell him or whether there is somehow a way back to Arsenal, this would be in our interests.
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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