Palace Player ratings and reaction

[selassie]

We started really well and looked like we meant business, we faded after Martinelli's goal and for periods were under the cosh. I liked how we defended though and Ramsdale was in good form too.

It's a really good 3 points, it's a difficult place to come to so I think it's a really good start.

I'll stick by my prediction, if we add a Central Midfielder to the squad (Tielemans) then I think we have the quality and potential to potentially finish 3rd. I like the look of this team now and the squad is starting to take shape too. We have a lot of really good young players here now, some really special ones in the case of Saka and Saliba.

[HCZ_Reborn]

We started really well and looked like we meant business, we faded after Martinelli's goal and for periods were under the cosh. I liked how we defended though and Ramsdale was in good form too.

It's a really good 3 points, it's a difficult place to come to so I think it's a really good start.

I'll stick by my prediction, if we add a Central Midfielder to the squad (Tielemans) then I think we have the quality and potential to potentially finish 3rd. I like the look of this team now and the squad is starting to take shape too. We have a lot of really good young players here now, some really special ones in the case of Saka and Saliba.

Add a right sided winger to that and I’d agree, whilst I don’t have this bizarre belief that Saka is shit that another regular has on here, I think he was overplayed last season and I don’t think Pepe can be relied upon as a substitute.

[selassie]

Add a right sided winger to that and I’d agree, whilst I don’t have this bizarre belief that Saka is shit that another regular has on here, I think he was overplayed last season and I don’t think Pepe can be relied upon as a substitute.

Yeah I kind of agree, we do need an extra quality option on the wing, but I've not completely given up on Pepe yet, if we can't shift him then he's not a bad option to have, Arteta just needs to play him more. Pepe is a very hot and cold player but when he is on it he is a very good player IMO.

[mandela8]

Yeah I kind of agree, we do need an extra quality option on the wing, but I've not completely given up on Pepe yet, if we can't shift him then he's not a bad option to have, Arteta just needs to play him more. Pepe is a very hot and cold player but when he is on it he is a very good player IMO.

Pepe is a great option. He almost always creates something and you can tell players hate playing against him. I'm really not clear on what he's done to be ostracized, tbh. Sure he's come on and been pretty wasteful in possession at time but absolutely not to a much greater degree than Saka and Martinelli are every single game.

In reality he isn't an option at all because Arteta doesn't see him as one. That's why they need another wide option ASAP.

[HCZ_Reborn]

He almost always creates something?, he really doesn’t does he?. I have no doubt he is capable of creating good attacking opportunities and can score excellent goals. But this accounts for about one game in every five where as the rest of the time, refuses to track back, poor first touch….gives the ball away with atrociously lazy passing.

I think he would be good enough if he bothered to apply himself but the fact is he doesn’t want to. He gives every impression that he’d be much happier in the French league where he can beat troglodytes with ease and not have to extend himself.

Let’s be fair, he makes Ozil look like someone with a strong work ethic.

[I am invisible]

Just put Pepe out of his misery ffs! He could still be a good option for someone, in the right set up, but he's obviously not a match for what Arteta wants and Arteta isn't going anywhere, so I really don't see the point in prolonging this - it isn't helpful to anyone at this point. Pepe needs to salvage his career going into his peak years and we can't have £140k/wk sat on the bench, taking up a squad place and not contributing.

[mandela8]

Just put Pepe out of his misery ffs! He could still be a good option for someone, in the right set up, but he's obviously not a match for what Arteta wants and Arteta isn't going anywhere, so I really don't see the point in prolonging this - it isn't helpful to anyone at this point. Pepe needs to salvage his career going into his peak years and we can't have £140k/wk sat on the bench, taking up a squad place and not contributing.

This is the sad reality, man.

Arteta cost Arsenal champions League football last year when they couldn't create a chance yet Pepe couldn't get a sniff. A complete waste for everyone.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Just put Pepe out of his misery ffs! He could still be a good option for someone, in the right set up, but he's obviously not a match for what Arteta wants and Arteta isn't going anywhere, so I really don't see the point in prolonging this - it isn't helpful to anyone at this point. Pepe needs to salvage his career going into his peak years and we can't have £140k/wk sat on the bench, taking up a squad place and not contributing.

You speak as if there are clubs queuing up to sign him.

Like with Torreira, when we do eventually get rid of him we are going to be making a massive loss on him.

And even before that Neurodiverse lego haired Wally became our coach, Pepe looked a very hit and miss player. He can be brilliant, but just as often he can have the first touch of Sidney Cook and won’t even show for the ball.

[mandela8]

He almost always creates something?, he really doesn’t does he?. I have no doubt he is capable of creating good attacking opportunities and can score excellent goals. But this accounts for about one game in every five where as the rest of the time, refuses to track back, poor first touch….gives the ball away with atrociously lazy passing.

I think he would be good enough if he bothered to apply himself but the fact is he doesn’t want to. He gives every impression that he’d be much happier in the French league where he can beat troglodytes with ease and not have to extend himself.

Let’s be fair, he makes Ozil look like someone with a strong work ethic.

Absolute nonsense, man.

His stats are still decent despite being a peripheral figure. If you looked at his stats for when he played a bit more consistently they were actually good and SIGNIFICANTLY better than any of his peers.

I don't get the tracking back nonsense either. He's certainly no worse than Saka, in that regard, so either it's not really required by Arteta or people are being held to grossly different standards here.