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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Yeah.... probably should have just said their scattergun approach in the last 20 years has only led to them winning 5 EPLs, umm 4 European Trophies, ahh countless players and nights their fans couldn't forget in a decade; while effectively usurping us as Top Dawg in these parts......but I'm sure you'll be able to counter by listing the excitement our carefully thought out meticulous approach has elicited in you and the rest of goonerdom.
    All their achievements have been bought at the largesse of owners. You can bemoan all you like the fact that we’ve not adopted that model, but it is what it is. If we’d lost out to someone like Liverpool who we seem to largely be trying to emulate to various degrees I’d see your point, but Todd Boehly is doing drunk silly spending which you imagine will catch up with them long term.
    Listen I get the disappointment I really do, but the main difference between what we offered and what Chelsea offered is that they offered 60 odd million cash up front, unless the Kroenkes are prepared to do that for us…I can’t see how it comes down to a failed negotiation strategy.
    You can complain that the Kroenkes are not giving us enough funds to compete but that’s a different matter entirely

    That our alternative target appears to be Raphinia, suggests there is a downside to clubs spending beyond their means in the hope of short term success. For all we know, we might end up with Mudryk in a year or two because Chelsea are having to do a fire sale.

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    There's a reputational aspect too, if we don't get Raphina or someone else good we don't look serious about being a top side, we really need to get him or Torres over the line now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    There's a reputational aspect too, if we don't get Raphina or someone else good we don't look serious about being a top side, we really need to get him or Torres over the line now
    Whilst I think we need to make a signing, the reputation thing is bollocks…who the fuck cares? It’s not kids in a playground. Plus rather be thought of as a club that won’t spend big to win things (as if Mudryk was going to be the difference between us winning the league or not) rather than a club that other clubs see coming that they can offload their shite on for ridiculous money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Whilst I think we need to make a signing, the reputation thing is bollocks…who the fuck cares? It’s not kids in a playground. Plus rather be thought of as a club that won’t spend big to win things (as if Mudryk was going to be the difference between us winning the league or not) rather than a club that other clubs see coming that they can offload their shite on for ridiculous money.
    Everyone knows our squad's too thin, that's the problem, we ran out of steam last season because he played people like Saka in every game, the same will happen unless we deepen the squad. Ok, we'll have Jesus, Nelson coming back and ESR is now available, but we need more IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Everyone knows our squad's too thin, that's the problem, we ran out of steam last season because he played people like Daka in eberu gamr, the same will happen unless we deepen the squad. Ok, we'll have Jesus, Nelson coming back and ESR is now available, but we need more IMO
    The problem is, there is no plan B after Mudryk. The same old thing wil happen. We will get to March and injuries will fuck us over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Everyone knows our squad's too thin, that's the problem, we ran out of steam last season because he played people like Daka in eberu gamr, the same will happen unless we deepen the squad. Ok, we'll have Jesus, Nelson coming back and ESR is now available, but we need more IMO
    Aye, we have to do as much in our power to add depth and quality to the squad this window. If we fail to do so then realistically speaking the current squad will not be able to manage a PL title challenge and Europa league challenge IMO, injuries and fatigue will kick in like they did last season, it's inevitable. I personally believe we need a Wide player and Central Midfielder (Partey cover).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    There's a reputational aspect too, if we don't get Raphina or someone else good we don't look serious about being a top side, we really need to get him or Torres over the line now
    We'll still pay over the odds for both players and they are not really what the club wanted initally....its the Pepe mistake all over again.

    Personally, if I had my way, I wouldn't waste money on a winger anymore...the kid was special and we lost that opportunity so no need to over compensate.

    HCZ seems to think you don't win the league based on one players contribution (Vieira, Vieira, Viera...) God forbid but lets see what happens when we don't have Partey for a long stretch.

    IMO, we should go all out to strengthen the midfield and get him proper cover. That is our weakest position. That and another creative number 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    We'll still pay over the odds for both players and they are not really what the club wanted initally....its the Pepe mistake all over again.

    Personally, if I had my way, I wouldn't waste money on a winger anymore...the kid was special and we lost that opportunity so no need to over compensate.

    HCZ seems to think you don't win the league based on one players contribution (Vieira, Vieira, Viera...) God forbid but lets see what happens when we don't have Partey for a long stretch.

    IMO, we should go all out to strengthen the midfield and get him proper cover. That is our weakest position. That and another creative number 10.
    Mate you’re going off on one and claiming things I’ve simply not said

    I didn’t say one player is not instrumental to winning the league, I said that it’s unlikely Mudryk is that player and is not in fact an investment for the future (which I absolutely believe he was, and whilst it’s disappointing to lose out to Chelsea…I don’t believe the player was being bought for this seasons title push)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Mate you’re going off on one and claiming things I’ve simply not said

    I didn’t say one player is not instrumental to winning the league, I said that it’s unlikely Mudryk is that player and is not in fact an investment for the future (which I absolutely believe he was, and whilst it’s disappointing to lose out to Chelsea…I don’t believe the player was being bought for this seasons title push)
    Fair enough then.

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    He has signed for Chelsea on an 8 & half year deal and by some accounts, for over 150k a week wages.

    Hes played 65 games and mainly in a Ukrainian league.

    Hes clearly talented but that money on that length a deal? I think we are better off out

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