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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    It's apparently a 1.5 year contract with a 1year option. Pretty relaxed about it tbh. As long as he never takes a penalty.
    and a cost of £11m with £2m add-ons which doesn't seem too bad in today's market

    a good deal IMO if it just shores us up a bit in some games and provides cover.

    even though i know he's another old git from Chelsea, it's not a Willian or Luiz style signing

    maybe he can also teach Sambi a thing or two...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    To think you were so against Trossard and January for the same reasons.

    Anyway, I am a bit 50 - 50 on this and leaning more towards persisting with Sambi than another expired Chelsea reject. Would only make a bit of sense on the shortest of contracts and a less than 8m transfer fee ( like you suggested earlier ) but I doubt the club will be able to even achieve that!

    A shame though that our youth system is producing great forward players (Balogun scored again against PSG yesterday) and we are struggling for defensive minded players given our history in that department, in fact struggling to think of any good ones we've produced in the last 10 years.
    Because I didn’t see a winger as a necessity in the same way a midfielder is (especially in light of losing Elneny)

    Mudryk seemed to me more of an investment in the future, and in a way Caicedo would have been as well (although as I said I just did not see Brighton selling under any circumstance)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    maybe he can also teach Sambi a thing or two...
    Directions to the airport would be the best thing he could teach him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Fee is 12m. Small change really.

    Hopefully he does the job for now and we go back for Caicedo in the summer. Or maybe go after Rice.

    Sensible deal all round I’d say.
    Do you honestly have faith in us to complete a high profile deal in the Summer for either Caicedo or Rice? I certainly don't. Most of the high profile deals we have completed over the past few years have fallen in our lap so to speak, when we are up against other clubs we very rarely complete the deal and it's becoming a bit of an issue IMO.

    Like all signings, I will get behind Jorginho and the plus side is that his contract is short so it's not as bad as I orginally thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Do you honestly have faith in us to complete a high profile deal in the Summer for either Caicedo or Rice? I certainly don't. Most of the high profile deals we have completed over the past few years have fallen in our lap so to speak, when we are up against other clubs we very rarely complete the deal and it's becoming a bit of an issue IMO.

    Like all signings, I will get behind Jorginho and the plus side is that his contract is short so it's not as bad as I orginally thought.
    Well we certainly stand a better chance of landing Plan A signings in the summer than we do in the last week of January! Brighton hold all the cards with Caicedo so there wasn’t really much more we could do right now. Our position in the market is weak due to our need for players and the fat wad of cash everyone knows is burning a hole.

    Jorginho is obviously a Plan B but if we had not brought someone in the club would have faced huge criticism.

    If you think about it, we’ve signed a CB, CM and forward this window. At least they’ve made an attempt to address the depth issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Well we certainly stand a better chance of landing Plan A signings in the summer than we do in the last week of January! Brighton hold all the cards with Caicedo so there wasn’t really much more we could do right now. Our position in the market is weak due to our need for players and the fat wad of cash everyone knows is burning a hole.

    Jorginho is obviously a Plan B but if we had not brought someone in the club would have faced huge criticism.

    If you think about it, we’ve signed a CB, CM and forward this window. At least they’ve made an attempt to address the depth issues.
    For sure we have improved the depth of the squad with decent-ish additions. I take your point about not being able to complete the Caicedo deal in the January window for obvious reasons....however what is going to stop the same thing happening in the Summer when we pursue Rice or Caicedo along with the likes of presumeably Chelsea, United and Liverpool? I am skeptical for the simple reason we totally botched the Mudryk deal, we had been speaking to him and his agents for quite a while yet still failed to complete the deal. I guess it will be just a case of wait and see....but I would hope either one of those players (Rice or Caicedo) is signed in the Summer or someone of that ilk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    For sure we have improved the depth of the squad with decent-ish additions. I take your point about not being able to complete the Caicedo deal in the January window for obvious reasons....however what is going to stop the same thing happening in the Summer when we pursue Rice or Caicedo along with the likes of presumeably Chelsea, United and Liverpool? I am skeptical for the simple reason we totally botched the Mudryk deal, we had been speaking to him and his agents for quite a while yet still failed to complete the deal. I guess it will be just a case of wait and see....but I would hope either one of those players (Rice or Caicedo) is signed in the Summer or someone of that ilk.
    In the summer we will hopefully be a more attractive proposition - things are going well right now but we haven't sealed anything yet - but in the summer if we're PL winners or close runners-up and in the CL spots, we will be a stronger prospecct.

    Also wasn't the Mudryk thing slighlty led astray by Shaktar wanting to sell him to a former Russian-owned club and parade the Ukrainian flag around Stamford Bridge? I really don't think the player was happy about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    In the summer we will hopefully be a more attractive proposition - things are going well right now but we haven't sealed anything yet - but in the summer if we're PL winners or close runners-up and in the CL spots, we will be a stronger prospecct.

    Also wasn't the Mudryk thing slighlty led astray by Shaktar wanting to sell him to a former Russian-owned club and parade the Ukrainian flag around Stamford Bridge? I really don't think the player was happy about it
    Yeah for sure, I do agree we will be a more attractive proposition as PL winners or even runners up.

    With Mudryk, I get the feeling we p*ssed off Shaktar by messing around with our bids, we were obviously hedging our bets on the player being so unsettled and so keen to come that we thought we could get him in way below their valuation. By the time we wised up, Chelsea came in and did the deal.

    The Caicedo deal is different, I totally understand that they don't want to sell and that we basically left it too late. Maybe we will revisit it in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Directions to the airport would be the best thing he could teach him


    apparently Lokonga is going to Palace on loan, where he'll either help them to relegation or turn into the best player we've ever seen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post


    apparently Lokonga is going to Palace on loan, where he'll either help them to relegation or turn into the best player we've ever seen...
    Hopefully Vieira can boot him into shape.

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