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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    16 out of 19 wins before this.

    A shit result and performance was overdue.

    We’ll see how we react.

    It shouldn’t be overdue that’s the problem, forever waiting for the other shoe to drop is half the problem I have with Arteta as a coach.

    We didn’t for me play that well against United….they won too many battles in midfield. But we showed guts and determination to power through.

    Accepting defeat is something we’ve become too accustomed to, it should make us feel sick to our stomachs and fucked off for weeks afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    It shouldn’t be overdue that’s the problem, forever waiting for the other shoe to drop is half the problem I have with Arteta as a coach.

    We didn’t for me play that well against United….they won too many battles in midfield. But we showed guts and determination to power through.

    Accepting defeat is something we’ve become too accustomed to, it should make us feel sick to our stomachs and fucked off for weeks afterwards.
    It’s not about being accepting of the defeat, no defeat is “acceptable” but it’s about understanding, that quite simply, shit happens. Freak results like this happen in the PL all the time, unfortunately we’re on the wrong end of one today.

    Now of course if this mutates into an unforgivable collapse then yeah there’s no defending that, but for now I prefer to look at what we’ve done so far and I’m confident in bouncing back.

    It’s a sickening defeat because we’re challenging for the title. In previous years this would have been a typical day at the office that no one would have raised an eyebrow at.

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    Losing to a team that has been flirting with relegation, three times in a row and four times out of five…or six times out of the last ten. Is more than shit happens, it’s purely and simply not on. I don’t give a fuck if Sean Dyche was in charge or The Ghost of Bill Shankly crossed the Merseyside divide. It’s not on, we can win every game from now until the end of the season…it’s not on.
    I don’t do oh it was just an off day. I do “you’re a bunch of mincing fairies and you’ve allowed yourselves to be bullied again”

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    I’ll give you that it was very reminiscent of worst of Arteta’s team as seen in previous seasons.

    Believe me I’m just as angry as you but I prefer to be objective until I see us fall off a cliff. I’m still very much finding to hard to believe we’re even challenging for the league because I wasn’t even sure we’d finish 4th 6 months ago.

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    BTW funny stat, but Partey managed not to be involved in the loss again

    I would have overlooked it, but seeing as their goal came from a corner due to an uncontested header by a very very weak Odegaard, would we have feared better if he had stayed on?

    Some stats I posted earlier here suggest he's actually great at air duels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    BTW funny stat, but Partey managed not to be involved in the loss again

    I would have overlooked it, but seeing as their goal came from a corner due to an uncontested header by a very very weak Odegaard, would we have feared better if he had stayed on?

    Some stats I posted earlier here suggest he's actually great at air duels.
    They made us look pretty shoddy from set pieces whilst Partey was on the pitch

    There’s no doubt we are poorer without him, but I don’t think we want to attribute invincibility to us when he plays

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    They made us look pretty shoddy from set pieces whilst Partey was on the pitch

    There’s no doubt we are poorer without him, but I don’t think we want to attribute invincibility to us when he plays
    Not ascribing invincibility to him, but you must admit the goal that beat us today is reminiscent to the goals we loved to concede in the dark days of defending (AW post invincibles and Emery).

    I am just looking at the progression of the team in handling set pieces, we do it far better now and I am wondering why.

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