Arsenal v Man City. 15th Feb. 19:30

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

We got schooled 2nd half. City pushed a high line and we couldn’t cope. Not saying we shoild be critical because you’re talking about the champions who have spent billions assembling what is a very good and very felxible squad.

The problem for us is if we can’t get a hold in the centre, we can’t get forward. City had the go long option, and their changes made the difference.

Gutted, but expected.

Oh you mean they had the ability to mix up their game, something even Southampton can do?

Who would have thought that ability would come in handy, certainly not Arteta obviously

btw

[Marc Overmars]

I don't think this is a very good team and the flaws are a lot if you ask me....I mean the retrogression in the last few games is just amazing....and even if we could tie it all down to the absence of one or two players...it would then mean we have team of 9- 10 players that none of our supposed rivals would take.

We are average and there is still a lot of work to do to get to where we need to be.

We’ve gone off the boil for sure but I don’t think winning 16 out of 19 games was a fluke. We’re a good team now but ultimately still a team that hasn’t achieved anything and probably doesn’t quite know how to handle things when it’s not going their way.

There’s no remedy for this, just man up and deal with it if you want to dine at the top table. Title challengers don’t go 3 games without winning nor do they struggle to score goals.

Sort it out Arsenal.

[Letters]

There’s no remedy for this, just man up and deal with it if you want to dine at the top table. Title challengers don’t go 3 games without winning nor do they struggle to score goals.

Sort it out Arsenal.

Aye. You get a feeling about a title winning side, I’ve found.
After Spurs and Utd I was getting that feeling. Those are the sorts of results you get in a title run.
But that’s all gone now. You don’t get 1 point from 9 in a title run, especially not when one of those games you lose at home to the other challenger.
I thought people were conceding the title too early after the last 2, but it’s gone now.
We really have to win the next one before it turns into a proper collapse.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

We’ve gone off the boil for sure but I don’t think winning 16 out of 19 games was a fluke. We’re a good team now but ultimately still a team that hasn’t achieved anything and probably doesn’t quite know how to handle things when it’s not going their way.

There’s no remedy for this, just man up and deal with it if you want to dine at the top table. Title challengers don’t go 3 games without winning nor do they struggle to score goals.

Sort it out Arsenal.

Didn't say it was a fluke, but we had a healthy dose of luck on the way and clearly the points we had amassed flattered this team.

This team consists of too many average players, which is the main point I am trying to get across anyway. I mean the only time we made the keeper work was a penalty and we had the better chances today .

BTW its clear that the coach has been pretty average too.

[LDG]

We’ve gone off the boil for sure but I don’t think winning 16 out of 19 games was a fluke. We’re a good team now but ultimately still a team that hasn’t achieved anything and probably doesn’t quite know how to handle things when it’s not going their way.

There’s no remedy for this, just man up and deal with it if you want to dine at the top table. Title challengers don’t go 3 games without winning nor do they struggle to score goals.

Sort it out Arsenal.

Yep. Agreed.

I feel a little sorry for em in the sense that it is a team I can really get behind, but you have to learn quickly in this league, and we had some pretty good warnings before their second which should have prompted a tactical shift.

The only way you win titles is to be consistent, and we haven’t been since the Xmas break. The Newcastle draw said everything about not havinv that little extra to tip the balance. Thats what title winners do. They don’t miss two unchallenged headers right on the spot and not test the keeper.

That was the difference tonight.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Aye. You get a feeling about a title winning side, I’ve found.
After Spurs and Utd I was getting that feeling. Those are the sorts of results you get in a title run.
But that’s all gone now. You don’t get 1 point from 9 in a title run, especially not when one of those games you lose at home to the other challenger.
I thought people were conceding the title too early after the last 2, but it’s gone now.
We really have to win the next one before it turns into a proper collapse.

I agree with most of this.

I did say I wouldn't concede till we have played City twice (initially I meant in the league), but that has occured now and both times City didn't really up their game...we just surrendered to them.

It's really been pathetic and though I won't give up, I'll be more silent about the title talk as clearly we don't have that aura of deserving champions.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fuck it, I'll still think we can do it.

[Marc Overmars]

I agree with most of this.

I did say I wouldn't concede till we have played City twice (initially I meant in the league), but that has occured now and both times City didn't really up their game...we just surrendered to them.

It's really been pathetic and though I won't give up, I'll be more silent about the title talk as clearly we don't have that aura of deserving champions.

It’s still a possibility and that’s something I hope the team doesn’t forget. If we beat Villa and Leicester you would then say we’re off and running again.

You fear for them now though unfortunately.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Aye. You get a feeling about a title winning side, I’ve found.
After Spurs and Utd I was getting that feeling. Those are the sorts of results you get in a title run.
But that’s all gone now. You don’t get 1 point from 9 in a title run, especially not when one of those games you lose at home to the other challenger.
I thought people were conceding the title too early after the last 2, but it’s gone now.
We really have to win the next one before it turns into a proper collapse.

Massive Confirmation Bias but never had that feeling. I felt that we hadn’t been properly tested…(still haven’t come back from going a goal down away from home)….and just felt that Arteta’s idiosyncrasies and personality deficiencies would haunt us.

Losing becomes a habbit, and losing ten times in a row to City before tonight means we just don’t have that belief that we can beat them or even get a draw against them.

We had to have everything go perfectly, won the two previous games, have our strongest available XI and we had neither of these.

Also there’s an argument to be made the players just aren’t good enough. Some of them have the potential - Martinelli, Saka, Jesus, Odegaard. But there’s just things that aren’t right, Ben White has been shite for a while now, Saliba looks like he needs to be dropped, Zinchenko is stinking the place out.

And let’s be fair even Ramsdale has been poor.


Need wholesale changes for Villa

Drop Zinchenko, drop Xhaka, drop Saliba, drop Eddie


Put in the Polack defender, put in Tierney, put in Vieira behind Odegaard and have Trossard and Martinelli play interchangeable between left wing and centre forward.

[Niall_Quinn]

The club and many of the fans still don't understand what winning means. Winners win everything. They win at the highest level and they won't let a 3 yer old beat them in a game of marbles. I saw some of the losers on here dismissing the cup match against city. Let's lose that one and then win the league. It doesn't work like that.

The Top Four mentality still holds strong.