Summer Transfer Shit and Everything Else

[HCZ_Reborn]

NQ is correct about Martinelli and one can attribute his improvement directly to Arteta, because Arteta has talked of how he told Martinelli that he 'needed to have gears' - i.e. not be overcharged all the time as NQ puts it, but change pace and use his energy in controlled bursts.

I just wish Arteta would coach more of our players like that instead of starving them of game time and not placing any trust in them

Because Arteta said something doesn’t make it so.

[LDG]

If it was always obvious to me Martinelli was quality from the get go, in Emery’s last few months he was by far our most impressive player. That development stopped when Captain Black came in.

I do agree that it’s good that KSE have decided they want to invest in the club, but it’s tempered by the amount of money that has been wasted and will continue to be wasted on dud players. Fabio Vieira, Zinchenko….that’s almost 70 million we will never see again for players in positions we didn’t need and could have been spent on players in positions we did.

If we succeed it will be despite Arteta not because of him, I still stick by my belief that he should have been fired two and a half years ago.

Some players work out, some players don’t. This is the way

It has always been like this.

It is the same for every team, not exclusive to Arsenal or Arteta.

Like NQ says, surely some credit has to go to the manager for the upward turn. You can’t have it both ways, otherwise you’re just calling him lucky for putting us on an upward trend.

[LDG]

No dude. Captain Morgan and Captain Jack Sparrow.

Hide the rum

[HCZ_Reborn]

Some players work out, some players don’t. This is the way

It has always been like this.

It is the same for every team, not exclusive to Arsenal or Arteta.

Like NQ says, surely some credit has to go to the manager for the upward turn. You can’t have it both ways, otherwise you’re just calling him lucky for putting us on an upward trend.

Other than Chelsea, there isn’t a club who has spent more on transfers than us the last few years. Given that outlay we’ve arguably underperformed….not a single trophy in three years and it was only this season gone that we qualified for the champions league.
With Martinelli and Saka he has got lucky, Partey, Gabriel and Odegaard were his signings but collectively came to over a 100 million.
I’m not singling out Arteta here, I’m quite clear that as long as you don’t have a complete fool like Todd Boehly in charge…transfer spending should equal some kind of upward trajectory and with Arteta it often feels like his transfer targets are ones you hope you’re wrong about rather than players to be optimistic about.
There are changes Arteta has made that I think work, he’s identified where attacking moves were breaking down and has us press higher up the pitch so when the opposition clear their lines we put them under pressure again. We also had a far more fluid transition from defence into attack…but the balance is still not right, we need to address how we can break teams down that take the lead and play a deep block…and we need a midfielder that enjoys playing through the press and I don’t see how who we are looking to buy addresses these issues.

What’s the point of signing versatile utility players but incorporating them into a rigid system, we need to adapt to who we are playing.

At the risk of repeating myself ad nauseam, I really hope I’m wrong.

[Mac76]

The 'fluid transition ' has been greatly undermined by Zin, who dawdles, takes too many touches, mainly makes sideways or backwards passes (normally to the least good option available) and regularly gives the ball away, but of course he's first on Arteta's teamsheet so we're stuck with him now

It's ironic that we finally neutralised a lot of what was so damaging about Xhaka, but then brought in another deeply flawed player and made them central to our play

This is one of the main reasons I can't get that excited about next aeason, to really establish ourselves we need to be firmly top three at least but it wouldn't surprise me if just making top four again was a real challenge if we stick rigidly to Zin and that inverted LB syatem

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Mbappe, Mbappe, Mbappe

Can dreams really come true?

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...eadmore-target

[Mac76]

So we're talking about next year, 'if' we have a successful 2023-24 season...

I'm not sure that fifth place plus a first-round CL exit will cut it with Mbappe somehow

[HCZ_Reborn]

So we're talking about next year, 'if' we have a successful 2023-24 season...

I'm not sure that fifth place plus a first-round CL exit will cut it with Mbappe somehow

The thing is we have enough quality in the team to finish top four no matter the coach’s shortcomings. Mbappe would probably get us a title if he could be sold on joining us

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

I also think we'll finish top 4, I'm not saying its a given, but can't see our traditional rivals being that consistent in such a short amount of time....though I'm probably not analysing things properly. I mean with Liverpool and Chelsea having nothing to play for except the league, in theory it should be a hell lot harder to stay in the top 4 next season.

As for the CL, I actually don't care about it and just hope it will not be the reason given for any major decline in our domestic performances. I can't imagine any pleasure I'd get from doing well in the CL and not challenging City for the title...naaahh. As long as we don't get hammered in our usual Bayern style, I'd be happy with whatever we get out of the competition.

It's funny though, I feel like those Liverpool Fans( 90s & 00s) who couldn't derive any pleasure from anything else but winning the league.... if you compare our story with theirs, we've had 2 close misses, I think they only had one right..not too sure.

Anyway, I still believe history supports you need to do well in other competitions to win the League, really don't get why I have this antipathy to the CL.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I also think we'll finish top 4, I'm not saying its a given, but can't see our traditional rivals being that consistent in such a short amount of time....though I'm probably not analysing things properly. I mean with Liverpool and Chelsea having nothing to play for except the league, in theory it should be a hell lot harder to stay in the top 4 next season.

As for the CL, I actually don't care about it and just hope it will not be the reason given for any major decline in our domestic performances. I can't imagine any pleasure I'd get from doing well in the CL and not challenging City for the title...naaahh. As long as we don't get hammered in our usual Bayern style, I'd be happy with whatever we get out of the competition.

It's funny though, I feel like those Liverpool Fans( 90s & 00s) who couldn't derive any pleasure from anything else but winning the league.... if you compare our story with theirs, we've had 2 close misses, I think they only had one right..not too sure.

Anyway, I still believe history supports you need to do well in other competitions to win the League, really don't get why I have this antipathy to the CL.

I just can’t see how a team that thinks it can go through a season with Trent Alexander Arnold in central midfield can get top four. It would be like us playing Maitland Niles there