Blimey have you been drinking?Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I always add at least a point onto your player scores which means Saka was a 9 but also Rice an 8 - impressive PL debut for him on that score...
Blimey have you been drinking?
I always add at least a point onto your player scores which means Saka was a 9 but also Rice an 8 - impressive PL debut for him on that score...
Nah I’d be a lot less annoyed than I am now if I had been drinkingBlimey have you been drinking?
I always add at least a point onto your player scores which means Saka was a 9 but also Rice an 8 - impressive PL debut for him on that score...
Today was a horrible shit show, and so horrendously predictable. Sometimes winning games like this almost makes it worse because managers will take it as a sign that things are copacetic.
I've no doubt the Kroenkes look at the score and think all's well, but from what people have said here it's all horribly predictable and we are not the high-class dominating side we need to be
My concern is if they don't break up Arteta's nursery school soon we'll be wasting some of the best years of the very good/promising players in the squad
Problem is the Kroenkes don’t understand football, so they can’t see the clear warning lights. Otherwise they’d have sacked Arteta almost three years ago. And Arteta has big support amongst an ill informed fan base that equate spending a lot of money with success (which it should be if you buy the right players)
Everyone gets a 5 for me. Maybe White a 4 and Partey a 6, as the worst best of today, but not much in it, really.
A bit disjointed but it's the first game of the season, so not an issue. I was actually encouraged that Arteta made a meaningful in-game change, around 30 mins, when it was clear Rice was struggling at DM, so he was moved up and Partey came into the middle. I think we've all complained about Arteta being too rigid and not changing it when needed, so credit where it's due.
3 points on the board. All that matters in the first few games.
I'd go with you here.
Unlike a lot of you guys, I'm pretty happy we got the 3 points as I did see a bore draw, especially if we'd setup the way we did against Citeh. Thankfully we didn't and I was pretty encouraged when I saw the starting lineup.
This game (and a bit of what we saw preseason) confirms one main thing to me.
Firstly, Havertz and Rice were luxury signings. Having to change his formation to suit them shows they addressed no shortcomings in this team. Simply put if we'd played Jorginho instead of Rice and Trossard instead of Harvertz this could have probably been 5 or 6 with Turner helping us out of course. My hope is that Arteta doesn't get carried away by these two that he feels the need to keep tinkering with his system that was solid enough if our regular players are fit. I do hope however that Rice proves to me that he is needed in this team but I'm pretty sure Havertz (though I've put him as my top scorer) won't be important for this team like I said in the beginning.
Anyway, the priority this summer (for me anyway) was to keep the players that kept us ticking last season, doing so is success. I just hope Arteta starts our best players and doesn't give preference to his luxury signings, that's the new worry.
Last edited by 21_GOONER_SALUTE; 12-08-2023 at 04:49 PM.
I think it’s obvious that we’re going to be relying heavily on our pace and athleticism to prevent dangerous situations. I don’t really see much positional discipline from this team.
The issue isn’t “luxury” players, it’s a coach who is a deranged maniac. The very example of someone who when you reward someone for their stupidity only makes them more stupid. So stupid in fact he genuinely believes he’s the most intelligent manager in the league.
Rice I can’t fault, given that he understands that you need to score goals to win games and actually did his own job of making interceptions as well as trying to get a goal when he realised that as well as being poor finishers many of the players around him were ducking the responsibility of trying to get goals
Timber aside it was our established players that really were horrible to see. Partey? It’s like watching this relative who was once alive and vital, but now has suffered a stroke and is dribbling out of one side of his mouth and there is a permanent crusty yellow stain in the crotch area of the trousers.
White for their goal, trying to get back against Elanga like a father running after a car that’s been nicked by a hoodie whilst his new born baby is in the back seat…all because he’d left the keys in there . Painful, heart rending and shameful to watch.
The only thing heartening about today is if you were a Spurs fan trying to cheer yourself up after Harry Kane has gone.
The absolute pits, almost worse than the last days of Good Ebening.
As much as I’m laying blame on the players, it’s the coach…the high line, the fucking inverted full back system and the in game management that’s as slow to respond as a laptop on safety mode.
He has to be sacked. And I don’t mean at the end of the season, I mean now. We can’t salvage this season but we can try and make the most before we hurt ourselves even more by selling Tierney.
I repeat. He has to go now…not next week, not tomorrow, right this instant
Could have been a home game from last season if you didn’t know any better.
Happy with the 3 points of course but you just don’t see that cold bloodedness like you do with City.
Last season we were able to score more goals, we had to rely on two moments of individual brilliance to stop Forest winning, and there’s no doubt they should have won.
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