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    Women just can't help themselves can they, they always have to be the victim. Can't even celebrate winning the WC without somehow making it about how men=bad.

    He kissed her in a moment of jubilation, men kiss other men all the time in the same situation yet you never here a man saying he's been homosexually assaulted.

    Besides I've seen the woman in question, she's no looker she should be so lucky tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wengerbabies View Post
    Women just can't help themselves can they, they always have to be the victim. Can't even celebrate winning the WC without somehow making it about how men=bad.

    He kissed her in a moment of jubilation, men kiss other men all the time in the same situation yet you never here a man saying he's been homosexually assaulted.

    Besides I've seen the woman in question, she's no looker she should be so lucky tbh.

    Ah from one extreme to the other


    I don’t know if you’re trolling, or if you’re actually the kind of person to flash a woman and when she gets upset say “I don’t know why you’re complaining, better than anything you’re likely to get”

    Do men lip kiss each other in celebration? Can’t say it’s something I’ve noticed

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Ah from one extreme to the other


    I don’t know if you’re trolling, or if you’re actually the kind of person to flash a woman and when she gets upset say “I don’t know why you’re complaining, better than anything you’re likely to get”

    Do men lip kiss each other in celebration? Can’t say it’s something I’ve noticed
    you obviously don't go to the same bars as LDG...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    you obviously don't go to the same bars as LDG...
    I should certainly hope not, and not just because I don’t like the guy


    Although it is mainly that

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    Rubiales quits, about time too: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66637879

    Oh and for those on here who said the player wasn't that bothered: "Hermoso, 33, said the kiss after Spain beat England was not consensual and she filed a legal complaint last Tuesday."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Oh and for those on here who said the player wasn't that bothered
    Who said that? I don't think anyone on here did.
    I think we all agree that he shouldn't have done it. But calling it "sexual assault", saying he "forced himself on her". This language isn't helpful.
    There's a case for him to be sacked, although personally I think that's a bit of an over-reaction - he got caught up in the moment, he didn't grope her or worse.
    The level of furore was been ridiculous, it's actually become "the story" and somewhat overshadowed the fact they actually won the World Cup.
    Sacking the manager is ridiculous - although it sounds like he should have been sacked anyway for other reasons, they just used this as an excuse to boot him out the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Who said that? I don't think anyone on here did.
    HCZ said it for one

    in his post on p11 he says:

    "What I like is that the only person who has taken a moderate stance on this is Jenni Hermoso herself."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Who said that? I don't think anyone on here did.
    I think we all agree that he shouldn't have done it. But calling it "sexual assault", saying he "forced himself on her". This language isn't helpful.
    There's a case for him to be sacked, although personally I think that's a bit of an over-reaction - he got caught up in the moment, he didn't grope her or worse.
    The level of furore was been ridiculous, it's actually become "the story" and somewhat overshadowed the fact they actually won the World Cup.
    Sacking the manager is ridiculous - although it sounds like he should have been sacked anyway for other reasons, they just used this as an excuse to boot him out the door.
    Personally, this seems like a mountain out of a molehill for me - although I understand that it speaks to a bigger issue of mysogyny.

    Rubiales' stupidity was doubling down. Had he made a full and sincere apology - 'I got caught up in the moment etc and I accept that my actions were inappropriate and unwanted' then I think he would probably still be in a job.
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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