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    There is some talk that we could move for Toney in January.

    I’d certainly back that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    There is some talk that we could move for Toney in January.

    I’d certainly back that.
    If we'd kept Balogun and even Tierney, we'd have had more natural options. Eddie had a shitfest on Sunday and was lucky not to get a red but their was no option to take him off which was totally self inflicted.

    Then we have Havertz coming in as some sort of super sub when clearly he is still battling depression caused by I dont know.... maybe being the 2nd highest paid player in the club ?! There is no logical reason Smith Rowe shouldn't have come in ahead of him and why he's had so few minutes, especially since we are assured of a minimum level of performance from him when he is fit.

    I am just tired of Arteta and his"Mad King" behaviour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    If we'd kept Balogun and even Tierney, we'd have had more natural options. Eddie had a shitfest on Sunday and was lucky not to get a red but their was no option to take him off which was totally self inflicted.

    Then we have Havertz coming in as some sort of super sub when clearly he is still battling depression caused by I dont know.... maybe being the 2nd best player in the club ?! There is no logical reason Smith Rowe shouldn't have come in ahead of him and why he's had so few minutes, especially since we are assured of a minimum level of performance from him when he is fit.

    I am just tired of Arteta and his"Mad King" behaviour.


    Balogun missed two penalties for Monaco at the weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Balogun missed two penalties for Monaco at the weekend
    Genuine question, missed or saved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Genuine question, missed or saved?
    They were saved but judge for yourself (the match highlights are available on you tube) . My attitude is unless it’s a world class save from the keeper, the forward has fouled up. And yeah Balogun fouled up, first penalty not enough power and straight at the keeper, second penalty more power but again straight at the keeper.

    Can’t fault his nerve going back to take a second after he missed the first but still, the commentators said the last time the same player missed two penalties in a game in that league was 2007.
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    Just had a look. They were not good penalties.

    EDIT: One of my football annoyances is when a penalty like that goes in and the commentator says what a great penalty it is. The goalkeeper going the wrong way and a weak penalty going in doesn't make it a good one

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    Now I have had time to calm down, I can be more reasonable with my response.

    DOGSHIT.

    Eddie is also a waste of space, I think we sold the wrong striker or should have sold them both and bought someone else.
    Hopefully the Toney rumors' are true.

    Also what was that starting front 3 ??
    I know we have a lack of options but christ!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Just had a look. They were not good penalties.

    EDIT: One of my football annoyances is when a penalty like that goes in and the commentator says what a great penalty it is. The goalkeeper going the wrong way and a weak penalty going in doesn't make it a good one

    and one of mine is everyone using the term 'missed' penalty when the shot was on target - weak shot or not, the keeper still has to save it

    Just found some highlights - the first pel was a weak attempt but you could argue the second was very similar to Saka's on Sunday - when they go in, everyone praises the player for being cheeky or whatever, but when they don't they look dumb

    but both were at least on target

    also even though the highlights were brief, I'd say I saw Balogun in dangerous positions in the box more times than Eddie was and I still think we should have kept him and sold Eddie

    Eddie's thinking and physical pace just aren't quick enough to keep up with what our midfielders are trying to do - we weren't nearly at our best on Sunday but even then, there were several times when one of our players had the ball on one of the wings, but when I looked across at the Spuds box we had no-one coming in to provide a target for a cross - that's absolutely what Eddie should be doing

    We need to buy Toney or someone else in January

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Balogun missed two penalties for Monaco at the weekend
    I was aware of that even before I posted this as I put money on Nice to draw the game which you know they more than did.

    What I don't get is how this is related to what I posted earlier i.e. we had no option but to play Eddie for 90 mins as we only have two strikers?

    Does the fact that he misses penalties mean he wouldn't have been preferable to have had him on the bench on Sunday? Does missing penalties now erase all the goals he scored last season in Ligue 1? If Havertz scored 2 penalties in a row does that mean he is a justifiable buy?

    I honestly don't get what you are implying here, unless you are saying you prefer Eddie to Balogun, which TBH is your prerogative but doesn't change what I said about us having the option of all 3 earlier this season and choosing to start and finish a season with only 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    I was aware of that even before I posted this as I put money on Nice to draw the game which you know they more than did.

    What I don't get is how this is related to what I posted earlier i.e. we had no option but to play Eddie for 90 mins as we only have two strikers?

    Does the fact that he misses penalties mean he wouldn't have been preferable to have had him on the bench on Sunday? Does missing penalties now erase all the goals he scored last season in Ligue 1? If Havertz scored 2 penalties in a row does that mean he is a justifiable buy?

    I honestly don't get what you are implying here, unless you are saying you prefer Eddie to Balogun, which TBH is your prerogative but doesn't change what I said about us having the option of all 3 earlier this season and choosing to start and finish a season with only 2.

    Crikey….I thought it was meant to be me who got the hump too easily


    Not being you or for that matter being psychic I don’t know what you know or don’t know about what happened in a French league fixture at the weekend


    I think Sunday’s match suggested that it was quality rather than quantity we lacked up front. I’ve been very outspoken about how Arteta has spent loads on defenders and hasn’t actually bought an out and out striker in the almost four years he’s been here. But yeah I remain unconvinced that we shot ourselves in the foot by letting Balogun go, and actually more peeved that we spent sixty five million on Havertz rather than an out and out striker.

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