Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Yeah I noticed that. Whilst I mostly agree with McNulty, can’t help but feel they wouldn’t do this to Pep or Klopp.
Yeah I noticed that. Whilst I mostly agree with McNulty, can’t help but feel they wouldn’t do this to Pep or Klopp.
Probably not but it’s much easier to gain credence by going for a rookie who’s done precious little, rather than elite coaches who’ve won it all.
To be fair, everyone laughed in Klopp’s stupid face when he was asking for a replay after that mess.
Agreed, as that is something which is in Arteta’s control. So that’s where he should be focusing. But that can be true and it can also be true that Arteta’s right about the VAR mess. I agree with Arteta. But I also agree he should, once he’s calmed down, be focusing on our failings. We might have been robbed yesterday but it was of one point, not 3.I’m more inclined to look at how utterly ineffective we were up front. At no point did we look likely to win the game.
What a crock of shit that was. I only got back into football this last year but has VAR always been this bad, I thought it was supposed to eliminate refereeing errors.
We didn't deserve to win, so it only really cost us one point, but that ball was clearly out, not to mention the subsequent foul, the handball and the offside.
that article is spot on
The foul is the one that is clearest for me, it's completely blatant
I'm not sure the ball was out tbh, I could be wrong but i think if you were stadnding right over that it would just slightly be on the line - I can't even see the handball but on the offside, if what people are saying about the rules is correct then yes it looks offside
Going by the rules of the game (which I don’t agree with) the ball was probably still in play because the whole diameter of the ball was casting a shadow on the line rather than the sensible way of determining it that there is grass between the white line and where the bottom of the ball is. You know what might help them is to use the same sensors that is there for goal line technology. Hawkeye or some shit
The Joelinton action of having two arms on the back of Gabriel looks like a foul, but for one reason or another they’ve determined that it can’t be because the action didn’t do anything to impede Gabriel’s movement, kind of embarassing really that it’s deemed not a foul because you in fact have the upper body strength of a child.
Offside? You know what fuck knows.
I like to believe I’m consistent of the view of giving the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team therefore I’m not foaming at the mouth about this decision, however I’m annoyed at goals that have been chalked off for us for far more finicky reasons.
Gabriel Martinelli has had three goals that probably should have stood, Brighton at home in 2022, Man United away in 2022 and Everton away in September
https://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...nal-have-stood
I think Dermot Gallagher is right here, there just isn’t anything conclusive. My question though remains, is that rationale being applied consistently across the board because I don’t think it is
I don't really blame Arteta for this - all managers deflect from their or their team's failings - but this does all rather seem like an attempt to distract people from the fact we had 1 shot on target all game.
That might be a better problem to try and address, Mikel, as it's in your control.
Arteta chose, I think quite deliberately to use this talking point to distract from our own shortcomings. I think his anger over the decision is totally manufactured. It then puts the club in a position of whether or not to back his position, and if it doesn’t back his position it creates a rift which puts his position under scrutiny (which they are evidently - rightly or wrongly not prepared to do)
Could it benefit us more in the future if officials generally fear a backlash from decisions, possibly who knows.
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