Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
nice try but why don't we turn the spotlight back on the person actually making these commets in the first place and why the choice is made to use those metaphors when you could choose any other
the regularity of your remarks which contain such subjects just seems a little suspect - anyway you're not prepared to face up to it, so let's leave it there shall we
But to be honest with you, no I agree with you I don’t think you are bothered by these things. I think there’s a small part of you that objects to such comments because you need to be thought of as a good or moral person. My view is that for a group like this, that’s a feebly misguided approach. I say things here I would not say elsewhere because apart from you most people here don’t get out the fainting couch.
But my sense of humour is mat black and I make far worse comments than this on every conceivable societal taboo in private messages with friends. It’s not instructive of any desire to do such things.
However, what if I were to tell you that I suffer from what’s known as Pure O (a form of OCD that’s about intrusive thoughts that cause immense distress) and through no choice of my own I am plagued by dark and disturbing thoughts that rather than making me want to act on such thoughts, would rather make me take my own life than act on them.
Haven’t you by your superficial moral preening caused me immense harm by intimating that I might be a sexual deviant, a predatory rapist?. That I might now internalise your accusations and spend ages agonising over whether I am this terrible thing (even if in thought if not deed).
Now of course you haven’t caused me any harm because I’d have to be in a very bad place indeed mentally for anything you say to cause me even the slightest concern or worry, and even if you had I maintain that it’s my brain that’s made that leap rather than your words.
But again just to be clear, I’m using your logic here
You realise of course that all you’ve achieved is to open up a pathway where at the back of your mind you’re going to have that seconds self doubt every time you think about bringing up Zinchenko in conversation. And of course if you don’t a little bit of less than subtle operant conditioning on my part won’t go amissnice try but why don't we turn the spotlight back on the person actually making these commets in the first place and why the choice is made to use those metaphors when you could choose any other
the regularity of your remarks which contain such subjects just seems a little suspect - anyway you're not prepared to face up to it, so let's leave it there shall we
Certainly wouldn't put it past me to mention it every 5 minutes.You realise of course that all you’ve achieved is to open up a pathway where at the back of your mind you’re going to have that seconds self doubt every time you think about bringing up Zinchenko in conversation. And of course if you don’t a little bit of less than subtle operant conditioning on my part won’t go amiss
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I absolutely won't, i can assure you
I recognise the 'Pure O' type of person you mean and tbh i think a lot of teenagers suffer from that, i think i did a bit when young
but i don't think such a person would therefore invite such commetns by using metaphors like that - surely they'd play safe and avoid such an invitation to bring that kind of comment on themselves?
you’re literally trying to tell me you understand this better than I do. I have to admit I got you wrong, I knew you were conceited but I didn’t realise quite how much.
First off apart from being slightly irksome, your assertions are not likely to make me believe I am capable of hurting someone, and even if they were…acting as though thoughts have power over you is essentially making yourself a slave to a condition like Pure O.
In relation to most recent comment Google it, and you’ll find it’s a common expression. And as I’ve tried patiently to explain to you, there’s a difference between words and deeds, just as much as there’s a difference between thoughts and deeds. All I can say to you now is that if you’re still convinced that there’s a connection between saying things and behaviour, that’s a you problem.
Morality is judged by actions not words, I’ve had female friends come to me to disclose sexual abuse…one of them I spent a lot of time trying to persuade her to go to the police where it turned out her abuser had form for this kind of thing.
Would I use such an expression around these people? No. But you tailor your language to an appropriate audience
I wouldn’t share the type of jokes I read in Viz with my dad for instance
Oh you will. Consciously you think you won’t, but you don’t really fully have control over your thoughts.
If I told you not to think of white elephants it’ll be the first thing you think of
again i've never said you do these things, just that you have an unhealthy obsession
First off apart from being slightly irksome, your assertions are not likely to make me believe I am capable of hurting someone, and even if they were…acting as though thoughts have power over you is essentially making yourself a slave to a condition like Pure O.
In relation to most recent comment Google it, and you’ll find it’s a common expression. And as I’ve tried patiently to explain to you, there’s a difference between words and deeds, just as much as there’s a difference between thoughts and deeds. All I can say to you now is that if you’re still convinced that there’s a connection between saying things and behaviour, that’s a you problem.
Morality is judged by actions not words, I’ve had female friends come to me to disclose sexual abuse…one of them I spent a lot of time trying to persuade her to go to the police where it turned out her abuser had form for this kind of thing.
Would I use such an expression around these people? No. But you tailor your language to an appropriate audience
I wouldn’t share the type of jokes I read in Viz with my dad for instance
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