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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    if you honestly believe that then you're deluded. you think wenger said to pat, 'listen do what you want and call the shots' ?

    not a chance. wenger will have sat down with pat before the game for an hour and listed out all the different possibilities and what to do depending on how the games going.


    and if he didn't do this he needs to be sacked because it's basic responsibilities expected from a manager who's paid £6m a year.
    and risk another ban. Of course Wenger had things to do with it, but pat rice would used him on brain when to change players. i doubt he would have done it right on the mins wenger said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    and risk another ban. Of course Wenger had things to do with it, but pat rice would used him on brain when to change players. i doubt he would have done it right on the mins wenger said
    he would not be risking another ban at all. you do realise it's a 'touchline ban'? so he can talk to the team and assistant before and 15 minutes after the game? he can talk to the team at the hotel before leaving and talk to pat rice then too. which is what he most probably done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Not sure, not familiar with him though he seems to have a good goal record.

    Was he injured?
    He's their best striker, and yeah he was injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    We're the first English team to play them at their home since 18 March, 1968 when Crewe Alexandria beat them 8-1.
    given the fact they were in our Cl group in 2002, it means we played them too at theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Not at all yesterday was not about perfomace it was about getting the teams confidence up by getting a point and a draw and we achieved it. People are praiing the effort of the players not the tactics. and Wenger had nothing to do with changes or tatcis all down to rice yesterday.
    Have to agree, although conceding a goal in the 88th minute left me gutted, I do feel we can come away with a certain sense of achievement, all things considering.
    People who think that the things that have happened to us since lets face it January, shambles of a second half to the season, the constant media stories, Cesc, Nas sagas, the unconvincing foray into the transfer market and the Old Trafford gang rape, have not left dead wounds are seriously mistaken. The players hoepfully will come away with a confidence, sire as pros they will be disappointed it wadnt a win but it gives them something to build on. Blackburn will be a test.

    I do feel empathy for those that question the tactics the team does still have problems and yhings need to be corrected but I feel we have the players (hopefully a couple more additions) to put us on the right tracks. Some have only known the sugar frosted donut era that Wenger swept in on. Not that it means anything but I have seen far worse Arsenal teams than this, if we can get the mental confidence thing right we may have a chance to get things back on track.

    For some it is deep rooted, hate for Wenger is not going to go away and the frustration at times is understandable but I hope that the hate does not cloud the thinking of some, it is important to appreciate that this project may take a little more time, it is amazing what a few good results can do, and I hope to see a bit more come Saturday.

    NQ who sounds like he is from around my era is the only one allowed to rant, cos he is a bitter, twisted, short sighted hermit living on an island and still thinks the Pacific War is going on but but somehow has cable telly

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    My anger and disappointment comes from the fact that we are constantly being sold new projects by the board and AW. The concern is that with the way football is going, by the time we come to a decent standard, we will be miles away from the top clubs. Agreed Dortmund is a very good side but the failure to pose a credible threat to their goal for 90 minutes concern me. I agree to the fact that I still live in the pre-2007 era of watching us play fast attacking football and it hurts to see us being so bad now.

    Yesterday I couldnt doubt the effort of the players. They had more commitment in that match alone to eclipse what they put in during the last 13 games of last season!! What is sad is that if we had made signings and a little bit of tweeks to our tactics last season or the season before, we'd have been right there at the top of the table come the end of the season.

    I guess my questions are... if this is another project 'how much longer'? Are we going to be able to hold onto our best players? Will we do business when we need to or wait for the 'waiting period' to get over? There are tons of questions and mainly concerns which have been there for a few seasons now and I just do not think AW or the board is the answer for it.. IMO, we need a fresh approach about the club from top to bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Why are people still talking about getting Cahill in jan? We saw what a good CB looked like last night in Hummels and Subtovic, a class above tbh.
    Who cares about real quality when you’ve got narcissistic self fellatio possibilities with a super ‘GEL’?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over View Post
    NQ who sounds like he is from around my era is the only one allowed to rant, cos he is a bitter, twisted, short sighted hermit living on an island and still thinks the Pacific War is going on but but somehow has cable telly
    Tell me about it. I see him on the beach every day. Happily, though, he never visits my hut. I think he doesn't like the smell of the raptor cooking on the fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeYank View Post
    My anger and disappointment comes from the fact that we are constantly being sold new projects by the board and AW. The concern is that with the way football is going, by the time we come to a decent standard, we will be miles away from the top clubs. Agreed Dortmund is a very good side but the failure to pose a credible threat to their goal for 90 minutes concern me. I agree to the fact that I still live in the pre-2007 era of watching us play fast attacking football and it hurts to see us being so bad now.

    Yesterday I couldnt doubt the effort of the players. They had more commitment in that match alone to eclipse what they put in during the last 13 games of last season!! What is sad is that if we had made signings and a little bit of tweeks to our tactics last season or the season before, we'd have been right there at the top of the table come the end of the season.

    I guess my questions are... if this is another project 'how much longer'? Are we going to be able to hold onto our best players? Will we do business when we need to or wait for the 'waiting period' to get over? There are tons of questions and mainly concerns which have been there for a few seasons now and I just do not think AW or the board is the answer for it.. IMO, we need a fresh approach about the club from top to bottom.
    A proper Sheikh up is what we need if we’re to harbour any hopes of landing the PL trophy tbh. Just face it FakeYank, no matter how hard you’ve been trying to ram the Frenchie’s hole with imaginative delight, the fact remains that, going forwards, the odds are highly stacked against our club winning the PL in this “competitive” climate even with a new stud in charge cos’ there’s very little doubt he’ll also have to serve the board’s primary MO first (which should be evident to all by now, otherwise monsieur Wenger wouldn’t be here today and you wouldn’t fall under the board’s categoric definition of a moron). FFP, for all its intents and purposes is just a farcical myth and unlikely to curb shit. Hey, maybe you could try dipping your finger(s) up the real yank in the club for a change and tell us if it’s any stinkier than the Frenchie’s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Not at all yesterday was not about perfomace it was about getting the teams confidence up by getting a point and a draw and we achieved it. People are praiing the effort of the players not the tactics. and Wenger had nothing to do with changes or tatcis all down to rice yesterday.
    I doubt this result with give the players a confidence boost. They conceded a late goal and that’s got to sting.

    Also, before the game, Wenger said the best way to keep their best player quiet is to attack. Even though he was banned, Wenger sets the tactics and preparation before the game. He mentioned Mario Gotze as the player their danger man and set the team up to attack. After 15 mins into the game, it was clear as day that it wasn’t going to work and the players played with the handbrakes on, as Wenger would put it.

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