Paris 2024 Olympics

[Letters]

No it wouldn’t have forced the IOC to change their stance. This is why you had a biological male in the female weightlifting category in Tokyo.

The weightlifter met the testosterone requirements outlined by the IOC. There’s certainly a fairness issue in weightlifting - it helped that in this case she wasn’t actually much good. But there’s no safety issue in boxing. So yes, it would certainly have put a lot of pressure on the IOC had results been released proving these boxers have male genetics and testosterone levels - again, the second of those was simultaneously claimed and refuted by the same organisation.

Khelif and Lin equally could have undergone tests to affirm or deny the results of these tests.

They could, but the burden of proof isn’t on them. The IBA are the ones making the claim.

The TL;DR of that Atlantic article is “it’s complicated”, which it is

[HCZ_Reborn]

The weightlifter met the testosterone requirements outlined by the IOC. There’s certainly a fairness issue in weightlifting - it helped that in this case she wasn’t actually much good. But there’s no safety issue in boxing. So yes, it would certainly have put a lot of pressure on the IOC had results been released proving these boxers have male genetics and testosterone levels - again, the second of those was simultaneously claimed and refuted by the same organisation.


They could, but the burden of proof isn’t on them. The IBA are the ones making the claim.

The TL;DR of that Atlantic article is “it’s complicated”, which it is

Again I’ve not denied that it’s complicated. The problem is, for the IOC it’s not complicated. You’re a woman if your passport says you’re a woman is how they conceptualise it.

Take away that ridiculous philosophy and the matter could have been resolved long before the Olympics

[The Wengerbabies]

I might put on a wig and enter in 2028

[Mac76]

I might put on a wig and enter in 2028

I'm sure you'd get away with it, they won't find a dick that small even with a microscope

[The Wengerbabies]

I'm sure you'd get away with it, they won't find a dick that small even with a microscope

That's pretty transphobic. Women can have penises too you moron.

[Niall_Quinn]

That's pretty transphobic. Women can have penises too you moron.

Some men even have penises, but it's getting rarer.

I don't know where we go from here. Even basic science can't bridge the gap, and we were relying on that to communicate with extra-terrestrial aliens FFS! Won't it be something when we can have a more connected conversation with ET than your average marxist plank?

[HCZ_Reborn]

Reports are saying that leaked medical reports confirmed that Imane Khelif has testes (I’m assuming internally)

So basically a man won the gold medal

[Letters]

Again I’ve not denied that it’s complicated. The problem is, for the IOC it’s not complicated. You’re a woman if your passport says you’re a woman is how they conceptualise it.

Take away that ridiculous philosophy and the matter could have been resolved long before the Olympics

I agree that’s a weird rule by the IOC. Maybe not historically weird but it’s not fit for purpose now.
Although that weightlifter thing says that their rules aren’t quite so simple as that. They do apparently have some rules around testosterone although there’s no indication they did any testing around that in boxing. Maybe that testosterone rule only applies to trans athletes.