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[HCZ_Reborn]

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As George Graham showed when he went after the Cup Winners Cup the reality it sometimes helps if you focus on one competition - no Chelsea fan is complaining at a middling league position for the years they won the CL and nor would we

You mean the year we got to the final and lost ?

You’d have had a better example of the year later where we dispensed with Bruce Rioch despite getting UEFA cup football on the last day

[Mac76]

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You mean the year we got to the final and lost ?

You’d have had a better example of the year later where we dispensed with Bruce Rioch despite getting UEFA cup football on the last day

Well making a final would be progress of sorts

but yes on my other point about being ruthless with managerss, the Rioch one is a good example of the approach we need to take

[HCZ_Reborn]

[QUOTE=Mac76;4597255]

Well making a final would be progress of sorts

but yes on my other point about being ruthless with managerss, the Rioch one is a good example of the approach we need to take

But that’s not the Chelsea approach which has been chaotic and any success largely attributable to the money pumped in. If I recall Rioch was on a deal for one year that we were able to extend but we chose not to. This is I think because Dein wanted to bring in Wenger when Graham went but was vetoed by Hill Wood (knowing Hill Wood something like “bah what would a Frenchy know about the English game”)

You can be ruthless without running a circus. We aren’t going to go beserk in the transfer market in a way that’s going to make things remotely sustainable (especially taking into consideration the cost of firing managers making pay outs and bringing in someone else) also it tends to mean you’re not going to get the best quality of coaches in. Because any decent coach will want time

I think you can argue Arteta has taken us as far as he can and I’d have no objection to parting ways with him at the end of the season (barring either a collapse or a miraculous turnaround). I think whatever this process or plan we have in place, it should be robust enough to survive his departure. But I don’t want us to have a revolving door hiring policy.

I think actually someone needs to be identified who we believe can get us the bare minimum of the title in the next three seasons

[Mac76]

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But that’s not the Chelsea approach which has been chaotic and any success largely attributable to the money pumped in

honestly it's just "lalalalala" with you isn't it - I'm talking about Abramovic's Chelsea not the mess they are now

and again pumping loads of money in doesn't help on its own, as Chelsea and Man Ure have been in the last few years, spending loads and now and being mid-table

[HCZ_Reborn]

[QUOTE=Mac76;4597257]

honestly it's just "lalalalala" with you isn't it - I'm talking about Abramovic's Chelsea not the mess they are now

and again pumping loads of money in doesn't help on its own, as Chelsea and Man Ure have been in the last few years, spending loads and now and being mid-table

You’re the one making the argument here. I know full well what era of Chelsea you’re talking about.

I don’t think it’s a good or successful model of running a club, the only reason it remotely worked for them in terms of winning anything at all was the amount of money they pumped in. The reason it doesn’t work now is because you have an inflated transfer market which means now more than ever as you say spending money doesn’t guarantee success

I don’t think it’s a good way to run a club, and I don’t think it would work for us. Instead of trying to claim that I’m deliberately misunderstanding you, accept that people not agreeing with you is not the worst thing that will happen to you

[HCZ_Reborn]

you are actually unbelievable. I’m actually for once trying to be reasonable rather than dismissive and insulting (which is more fun) but all you’re proving here is what I knew to begin with that everything you claim about me is mere projection. You literally can’t stand to be disagreed with. I don’t know if you think I’m disagreeing with you for the sake of it, No I don’t think Chelsea in the last twenty years has ever been a good model for sustainability at a football club.
I think the only success they’ve had has been down to money, and I don’t think Man United in the age of FFP in anyway disproves that. But guess what fella, you don’t have to agree. But the exasperation isn’t necessary…think of your blood pressure

[Mac76]

I'm just amazed you keep saying the thing about it only being about money when, for the third time, Man Ure and Chelsea, as well as others have showed just spending money isn't the answer unless it's used right and you have someone who can get the team to win